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Cant Walton street just be tarmaced and and serve as a car park to the stadium and new developments on the other bits of land around the stadium under the condition this car park would be closed for the 2 weeks duration of Hull fair?...win win for all surely?.
 
Cant Walton street just be tarmaced and and serve as a car park to the stadium and new developments on the other bits of land around the stadium under the condition this car park would be closed for the 2 weeks duration of Hull fair?...win win for all surely?.

The issue is that the two parties will never negotiate. If the new owner has similar ideas of expansion and development then it's something to talk about, but it's extremely unlikely that any discussions between them and the council would go the same way Allam's did.
 
I think my point was it never will be settled. So time to move on.

It hardly matters now. A bit like when Barmby left... The truth was buried and rumour abound.
It was never settled as no one will ever give you the definitive answer. Perceptions and recollections are far too coloured by the individuals Involved to ever work out where the truth is!

All you can conclude is that someone is lying. Or everyone is possibly mistaken as to their recollection...

What one party swears is the truth the other remembers differently. Compound that with the multiple issues on the table and you have a mess.

And that leads to conspiracy theories and speculation. We moved past that in the last year and is time to forgot the past and enjoy today. Until some facts hit the media, as opposed to this ambiguous referencing of possible maybes that may or may not be revealed on the same timescale Diame may well be fit by...

I don't actually think there's much conflict in what either party has said, each has just put a different spin on it.
 
It sounds to me that back of *** packet Allam expected a contribution for redevelopment however in lieu of said contribution he said they could give him the freehold for the stadium.

Its a sound principle but one which if our marketing and fans liaison are anything to go by, will have been executed poorly.

There is massive potential for the site and local authorities are tying up deals with leisure providers/academy schools to improve facilities all over the country. Just a shame nobody thinks like that at HCC. We deal with this company and it is what they do! http://www.pellikaan.com/en/projects/results

As a location for a fair, it is pretty outdated now and there are plenty of places around the city where it can be moved to.

They could even put it around the city centre like Manchester does with the Christmas markets, use it as the start to the late night shopping period.
 
It sounds to me that back of *** packet Allam expected a contribution for redevelopment however in lieu of said contribution he said they could give him the freehold for the stadium.

Its a sound principle but one which if our marketing and fans liaison are anything to go by, will have been executed poorly.

There is massive potential for the site and local authorities are tying up deals with leisure providers/academy schools to improve facilities all over the country. Just a shame nobody thinks like that at HCC. We deal with this company and it is what they do! http://www.pellikaan.com/en/projects/results

As a location for a fair, it is pretty outdated now and there are plenty of places around the city where it can be moved to.

They could even put it around the city centre like Manchester does with the Christmas markets, use it as the start to the late night shopping period.

It would be much better around the city centre with some places still open, at least the area would take some of the cash rather than it all getting driven away in vans and getting spent on new caravans/tarmac/stealing equipment.
 
I don't actually think there's much conflict in what either party has said, each has just put a different spin on it.
Exactly. We all agree I think, that all parties involved acted less than good. It's just the degrees and expectations we have that differ on each side.

I still think HCC are duty bound to act in the tax payers interests and should therefore have put more effort into the whole thing.
 
They could even put it around the city centre like Manchester does with the Christmas markets, use it as the start to the late night shopping period.

The city centre has no site anywhere near big enough, unless the fair was made dramatically smaller.

Having just looked at the size of the Walton Street site, there's very few potential sites that are big enough, I'd say Pickering Park probably looks the best option (though I believe some of the rides need hard standing, so would have to be binned).
 
It would be much better around the city centre with some places still open, at least the area would take some of the cash rather than it all getting driven away in vans and getting spent on new caravans/tarmac/stealing equipment.
A fair point there i must say