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Born in lake District, moved down south when I was 4 . Supported spurs because all my mates did, until I was 12 and my dad took me to my first Sunderland game. Red and white ever since, despite rarely being able to get to games (living in France last 26 years).

Dad and all of his family from Sunderland. I have a great uncle, in his 90's. Went to his first game when he was 12, and was a season card holder from them up until COVID when he had to give it up. Grandad also in his 90s, lifelong fan as well though he moved away so hasn't had a season card for a fair few years.

My son is 12, hoping to get him to his first game this season. Will be with my dad, pick up my grandad and hopefully great uncle as well to make it a 4 generation family trip (not to mention other family members who we will join)

All that just to say, if geography is what makes you a fan or not, no clue what I am then
You’re a fan.
 
I hate the mags, that purely football related. Enjoy seeing them lose at any opportunity.

However, to suggest that you can not have a stay over and a bit scran in the city of Newcastle is absolutely wild. It's something that my old man would say after 12 beers.
I agree with this, but I do feel a little 'aware' that I am in Newcastle, something different that I don't feel when I am out in Manchester, London or where ever.
 
It's just fact. I'm Shields, always been considered a Geordie or Sanddancer Nothing to do with football. If I decide to support Liverpool I cannot call myself a Scouser.
agree one of the things i hate when the mags do it calling ex players geordies and 'adopted geordie, i'm a jarrow lad born in shields, moved to durham now, but i always class my city as newcastle
 
Clarke has credit in the bank because of his performances and Ba hasnt yet (probably down to lack of minutes compared to clarke)

The success cross stat is one of the worst stats to monitor tbh. All it means is your player got on the end of it, so you could over hit a cross that goes to our rb way out wide n it counts as a succesful cross. Or you could play an amazing whipped cross behind the defence that your forward just misses n its cleared by tue defender at the back post - thats an incomplete cross despite it being a dangerous one

I agree clarke hasnt been at the level of last season but hes still causing problems, it was a great cross for jobes 1st against rotherham n hes still creating chances for himself n his teammates every game

The thing with Ba is everyone is wondering where his best position is. I think it was you who said you watched him play for France at RWB. I think he could be well suited to that, as he's got a good engine and carries the ball well. If Gooch goes, he could be a good stand if we go 3 at the back, with 5 across the middle.
 
The only agenda here is people defending their favourites when they’re playing ****e because they aren’t adult enough to judge our players evenly.

Clarke is probably the best player in our team. I have no agenda whatsoever I just call a spade a spade.
No m8 you’re wrong, you call your interpretation of a spade a spade. I don’t see it I see a good footballer who tries, and when he gets it right he’s good, I don’t see the point in saying I’ll ignore his good passes and highlight his bad, you seem to want to do the opposite. And as I’m an adult I’ll also say you’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to disagree with it.
 
No m8 you’re wrong, you call your interpretation of a spade a spade. I don’t see it I see a good footballer who tries, and when he gets it right he’s good, I don’t see the point in saying I’ll ignore his good passes and highlight his bad, you seem to want to do the opposite. And as I’m an adult I’ll also say you’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to disagree with it.

Ok mate. I didn’t ignore his “good passes” there just haven’t been many to go off in the first 4 games. Stats are wrong but you’re right cos you said so.
 
One of my observations with Clarke is the opposition have a clear plan for him. Double up, or stop him travelling with the ball from deeper. His chances to come inside are less too so far. He has to expect that after last season though, coaches will have targeted nullifying him. Up to Clarke now to find some different answers. Mowbray can help with keeping the full backs wide and pushing forward, instead of this pushing Hume into CM. That naturally narrows up Cirkin. Pritchard also created a lot of triangles with Clarke last season so Dack is going to need to find ways to help him too. If Rusyn comes my expectation is he drags defenders all over the place and space opens again for Clarke.
 
One of my observations with Clarke is the opposition have a clear plan for him. Double up, or stop him travelling with the ball from deeper. His chances to come inside are less too so far. He has to expect that after last season though, coaches will have targeted nullifying him. Up to Clarke now to find some different answers. Mowbray can help with keeping the full backs wide and pushing forward, instead of this pushing Hume into CM. That naturally narrows up Cirkin. Pritchard also created a lot of triangles with Clarke last season so Dack is going to need to find ways to help him too. If Rusyn comes my expectation is he drags defenders all over the place and space opens again for Clarke.

Defo mate. Unfortunately doubling up etc expected now because of how good he is and not only is it down to Clarke to learn to play against that it’s down to other players in our Xl to take advantage of it. Diallo was brilliant at drifting over to help Roberts and as much as I give Gooch grief he was always looking to overlap.
 
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You really just come on to wind folk up dont you?

I wasnt born in sunderland and i've never lived there so does that make me any less of a supporter than someone who lives in sunderland?

Im sunderland through and through, been brought up with a sunderland daft dad n grandparents with family who are season ticket holders - doesnt matter that i dont live there
Same here - especially the Sunderland daft dad - and my boys are Sunderland daft now!
 
Anyway lads any updates on our Ukrainian recruit?
I was hoping Rusyn was imminent but ALS’s take on it as that he is waiting for a work permit before travelling here for a medical:

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It looks like Sunderland could be closing in on an attacker - meanwhile, Super Kevin Phillips is among the favourites to take over a League One side...

RUSYN CLOSE
Ukrainian journalist Igor Semyon has reported that Sunderland have agreed terms for striker Nazariy Rusyn. He claims that Zorya Luhansk manager Nenad Lalatovic left the 24-year-old out of his squad for yesterday's 1-1 draw against Mynai because he is set to leave the club. Rusyn is reportedly waiting for a work permit before he travels to Wearside for a medical, ahead of Friday's transfer deadline day. Rusyn scored 13 goals in 30 games for Zorya last season, and also contributed three assists. He has scored one goal in two games this season, being linked with Sunderland for a number of weeks now as the club look to bolster their options up front.

PHILLIPS TO CHARLTON?
In other news, Sunderland legend Kevin Phillips is among the frontrunners to take charge of Charlton Athletic following the exit of Dean Holden. He has been linked with countless clubs since his surprising departure from South Shields, following their promotion to the National League North. Charlie Methven and Jim Rodwell are two men involved with the running of Charlton, and it will come as no surprise to Sunderland fans that Holden was reportedly sacked via text message. Lee Johnson, who was sacked by Hibs on the same day as Holden, is 5/1 for the Addicks' job alongside Super Kev. Former Sunderland coach Steve Cotterill is rated 8/1 whilst Lee Cattermole is an outside shout at 33/1.
 
Anyway lads any updates on our Ukrainian recruit?
We agreed a fee with the club but they wanted him to play the second leg of the Europa League play-off before he left, with our medical staff flying over there to do a medical after it but that was from before we agreed a deal with him. So should be sorted before then.
 
Ok mate. I didn’t ignore his “good passes” there just haven’t been many to go off in the first 4 games. Stats are wrong but you’re right cos you said so.
I think you might be on the wrong forum? If you want to argue like a bairn you should maybe do it otr, there’s loads there that will take you up on it. I’ve never said I’m right, I’ve said I’ve I different opinion on Jack Clarke and his game this season to you, and I disagree with your opinion on him. Now to me that should be it, but no doubt with the school’s being off you’ll have something else to say?
 
I think you might be on the wrong forum? If you want to argue like a bairn you should maybe do it otr, there’s loads there that will take you up on it. I’ve never said I’m right, I’ve said I’ve I different opinion on Jack Clarke and his game this season to you, and I disagree with your opinion on him. Now to me that should be it, but no doubt with the school’s being off you’ll have something else to say?

Never said you’re right just started your previous comment by saying I’m wrong? :emoticon-0102-bigsm

I’m not arguing mate all good here just stating the facts and figures from our fixtures so far this season and people take offence at me daring to mention our best player hasn’t performed.
 
One of my observations with Clarke is the opposition have a clear plan for him. Double up, or stop him travelling with the ball from deeper. His chances to come inside are less too so far. He has to expect that after last season though, coaches will have targeted nullifying him. Up to Clarke now to find some different answers. Mowbray can help with keeping the full backs wide and pushing forward, instead of this pushing Hume into CM. That naturally narrows up Cirkin. Pritchard also created a lot of triangles with Clarke last season so Dack is going to need to find ways to help him too. If Rusyn comes my expectation is he drags defenders all over the place and space opens again for Clarke.
I'm really not sure what we see that we're achieving with Hume coming in to midfield. It has a detrimental impact on so many aspects of our game that were successful last season and the benefits are fairly negligible in comparison.

Maybe if we bring in a dedicated defensive midfielder then we may dispense with the idea.
 
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