Summer window

[Pure River Slut]

I agree with some of the sentiments. I grew up in an era when the prospect of some silverware was real for a lot of clubs, not just a few. The game has changed much for the worse in the lack of opportunity and it is getting worse year by year. I used to think we had a good chance in a league cup, and outside in the FA cup, but not now so much. There doesnt seem to be the same 'in a one off game' chance anymore. If you draw Man City or Arsenal etc your chances are much less than was once the case in my opinion. The romance of the cup now seems to extend to a run to a quarter final perhaps.

As for our model I do think it is the right one. There is a glass ceiling we may not be able to smash through in the next few seasons, football probably needs a reset for that. If we can keep producing and developing young players, get promoted with flair football and follow a Brentford model that will give us a platform. Maybe then we follow more of a Villa model of this close season. They are signing some real talent and could well push for a cup final.

I have adjusted my own views on what success looks like if you are outside of the inner circle of the so called big six. Major trophies are so very hard to come by, so I am going to enjoy the more modest successes. Lacks a certain romance though. It is 8 years since Leicester won the league and I would be surprised if we see anything of that sort in the next 8 years. Would love to be wrong.

Good post. Shame that football has got itself into such a pickle. I think it about the Saudi stuff. It’s all just Saudi doing the same as we’ve done with our wealth. Wealth has been the ruler of football for too long. As Smug said, it’s nice to see some good attacking football and personally I like Mowbray leading it.

 

[Southern A]

I’ve been off grid all day. Can anybody summarise what’s happened?

I’ve seen that:

• Keef says Clarke has had his head turned
• Preston fans seem to think cannon is joining us
• Nixon thinks Bishop is coming to us on loan
• 
  is that about right? Anything else?

 

[FellTop]

I’ve been off grid all day. Can anybody summarise what’s happened?

I’ve seen that:

• Keef says Clarke has had his head turned
• Preston fans seem to think cannon is joining us
• Nixon thinks Bishop is coming to us on loan
• 
  is that about right? Anything else?

Somebody said Mbappe to us on loan as well mate.

 

[Robertson]

Good post. Shame that football has got itself into such a pickle. I think it about the Saudi stuff. It’s all just Saudi doing the same as we’ve done with our wealth. Wealth has been the ruler of football for too long. As Smug said, it’s nice to see some good attacking football and personally I like Mowbray leading it.

Add to that the excellent team spirit, likeability of the players and unearthing a few gems. Brilliant time to support the lads.

 

[TonyG]

I’ve been off grid all day. Can anybody summarise what’s happened?

I’ve seen that:

• Keef says Clarke has had his head turned
• Preston fans seem to think cannon is joining us
• Nixon thinks Bishop is coming to us on loan
• 
  is that about right? Anything else?

Rubber face over the road said Cannon has definitely visited us.

some pnE fans say Everton are waiting on Toure or Iheanacho and it’s most likely going to them.

Others however are saying that we might offer a permanent deal which suits Everton more.

who knows !

 

[John Wick]

Just some info for those mentioning Brighton as a club that have done well. They owe everything to their owner and lifelong fan Tony Bloom.

He has ploughed over £400 million into the club, maybe half of that on infrastructure, bit certainly a huge sum of giving them the clout to move up to where they are now. Yes they now sell players for daft money, but without him they are dead in the water. Even their own fans admit if Bloom called his loans in they wouldn't exist.

If we should be following any club, it is Brentford, they still owe their owner north of £100 million but most of that is on infrastructure and they where / are doing the buy cheap, sell high model much better than Brighton.

Good post. Brighton are doing well now, but if they continue selling their better players, they imo they will go the way of Southampton

 

[John Wick]

Somebody said Mbappe to us on loan as well mate.

Good times, good times.

 

[Mackem74]

It is only " sustainable" when backed by the funds of a nation state.

City are not a club in the real sense of the word at all. They are a projection of the identity of Abh Dhabi, wearing football shirts. A chimera. The same applies to that lot up there , PSG, and Utd when Qatar take them over.

City would be a mid ranked Premier League without Arab money. If the Arabs left tomorrow - and never discount this, they have entirely selfish reasons for being there and if those reasons were to change radically in a hurry, they'd be off in a hurry - City would be the back to their " norm" in five to ten years, though a higher norm than they have often managed.

They wouldn't, someone rich would take them over. They are an established champions league team now. Like all doping stories, it gets you to a place you haven't earned legitimately and you can stay there when the doping stops

 

[WorkyTicketFTM]

Good post. Brighton are doing well now, but if they continue selling their better players, they imo they will go the way of Southampton

Brightons scouting seems to be light years ahead of the likes of Southampton’s recently though.

They’re a strange one Brighton I don’t know where I stand with them, they seem to be doing it best at the minute but I do think other teams trying to deploy a similar model but not as successfully, like Brentford, have a shelf life in the Prem and it won’t be long until they end up back in the championship. Their only fallback is that they’re in London and can attract players like Palace.

I just don’t see how you can compete with clubs who throw ridiculous amounts of cash around every transfer window when you’re worried about making a profit.

 

[Lozza80]

Brightons scouting seems to be light years ahead of the likes of Southampton’s recently though.

They’re a strange one Brighton I don’t know where I stand with them, they seem to be doing it best at the minute but I do think other teams trying to deploy a similar model but not as successfully, like Brentford, have a shelf life in the Prem and it won’t be long until they end up back in the championship. Their only fallback is that they’re in London and can attract players like Palace.

I just don’t see how you can compete with clubs who throw ridiculous amounts of cash around every transfer window when you’re worried about making a profit.

Brighton and Brentford owners used to be in business together, they now don't speak at all . Both have the same model.

 

[Fly Me To The Moon]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/s...rmanent-transfer-swoop-for-man-united-player/

This article is quoting nixons story

Permanent and will sign when back from states

 

[Milton Nunez's Thong]

We’ve not had Stewart for prity much a season now so I don’t think it would hurt that much aslong as he’s replaced with someone fit.

This. He's no longer a miss. If he did sign a new deal and was fit it would be like a new signing.

 

[samwise_new]

Brightons scouting seems to be light years ahead of the likes of Southampton’s recently though.

They’re a strange one Brighton I don’t know where I stand with them, they seem to be doing it best at the minute but I do think other teams trying to deploy a similar model but not as successfully, like Brentford, have a shelf life in the Prem and it won’t be long until they end up back in the championship. Their only fallback is that they’re in London and can attract players like Palace.

I just don’t see how you can compete with clubs who throw ridiculous amounts of cash around every transfer window when you’re worried about making a profit.

presently, we cannot and i believe the aim is to 'barter' our way into the premier then have enough quality players to keep us competitive...i also think if one similar ran team gets relegated another similar ran team will replace them for at least a few seasons.

the FA sold thier souls to the tv money which initially allowed the 'old' top six to gain through the tv coverage, city owners saw something they could throw money into and that was apparently 'stopped' with the FFP but as usual, money speaks volumes...far too much has been caused by the mega-rich owners and football, as a league competition is slowly dying, the only part that still remains are us 'lesser clubs' and our true supporters and i honestly hope when the rich kids get sick of playing real life FIFA and feck off, us 'lesser clubs' finally have a chance again.

 

[LAMackem]

We also have Ba for that role so i wouldnt be suprised in the slightest if Pritch leaves aswell as Embo who also plays that position. Were too well stacked in that area for one not to leave really. Rigg has been a big suprise in how quickly he's thrown himself into first team recognition so they really is no need to keep Embleton or Pritchard.

Somebody said Mbappe to us on loan as well mate.

We are waiting till the price goes up to 500 million before we make our bid.....

 

[rowley]

They wouldn't, someone rich would take them over. They are an established champions league team now. Like all doping stories, it gets you to a place you haven't earned legitimately and you can stay there when the doping stops

Well we'll see, if and when it happens. Its far more when IMO.

But really rich people, REALLY rich, are very picky. The North is not usually their first choice . They see London, and then London. Some more London. Or some other cosmopolitan capital.

Abhu Dhabi were and are interested in sportswashing and geopolitical leverage, so place doesn't matter to them.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Well we'll see, if and when it happens. Its far more when IMO.

But really rich people, REALLY rich, are very picky. The North is not usually their first choice . They see London, and then London. Some more London. Or some other cosmopolitan capital.

Abhu Dhabi were and are interested in sportswashing and geopolitical leverage, so place doesn't matter to them.

Wives and girlfriends have a big say in where players go, not being sexist but shops are what counts ...

... the women have to do something while the bloke is at work and that's meeting other women for lunch, gossip and shops.

 

[rowley]

Wives and girlfriends have a big say in where players go, not being sexist but shops are what counts ...

... the women have to do something while the bloke is at work and that's meeting other women for lunch, gossip and shops.

They do. As Keane said when he was here!
Much the same will apply to private billionaires I'd expect.

 

[Gary Rowell world]

My point is they bought a club invested in it in whichever way that was achieved and then used a model or format which worked for them to build a successful sustainable club in any other business apart from football they would be seen as a great success story.

Its not any other business tho. Its football and there are rules. They have broke those rules 115 times

 

[WorkyTicketFTM]

Just some info for those mentioning Brighton as a club that have done well. They owe everything to their owner and lifelong fan Tony Bloom.

He has ploughed over £400 million into the club, maybe half of that on infrastructure, bit certainly a huge sum of giving them the clout to move up to where they are now. Yes they now sell players for daft money, but without him they are dead in the water. Even their own fans admit if Bloom called his loans in they wouldn't exist.

If we should be following any club, it is Brentford, they still owe their owner north of £100 million but most of that is on infrastructure and they where / are doing the buy cheap, sell high model much better than Brighton.

Didn’t really know much about how much Blooms put into the club to be fair so unsure on that front but over the last 5 seasons Brentford are £100m in the red on transfer activity whilst Brighton are £10m in profit. They’re the only team in the Prem actually in profit. You do wonder how long it can go on though when other clubs are £300-500m in the red, or in the case of Arsenal and United over £650m. How do you compete with that?

 

[Brainy Dose]

Good post. Shame that football has got itself into such a pickle. I think it about the Saudi stuff. It’s all just Saudi doing the same as we’ve done with our wealth. Wealth has been the ruler of football for too long. As Smug said, it’s nice to see some good attacking football and personally I like Mowbray leading it.

The Saudis are repeating what Sky did with the Premier League in 1992, and some here are starting to feel as the other European leagues did then.....all their best players heading to England in pursuit of the money. Human life has this annoying habit of making things go around and come around.