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Wages is a huge issue for football clubs and I'm glad we have a strict structure as it means we don't over stretch and keeps us on course to be sustainable.

The new ffp rules when they land will bite a lot of clubs hard and we appear to be ahead of the game on that respect.

It's also why we have to challenge the club to improve the off the field side as well as they have improved the on the field side as every extra penny made contributes massively.
 
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APC said:
Is he actually linked? Cos the one article shared is just saying we should go for him
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I don't think so, it's just an article based on one person's opinion on who we should sign. It's why I'm not a fan of sites like "Football League World" or "We Love the 72", just mostly clickbait opinion piece articles with very little substance.

For all we know we might have looked at him but what they want is way out of our league, or his demands are out of our league, or even that his agent has lined up a move somewhere. We might have enquired but be messed around. Let's face it, that Hungarian striker back in January basically used us to lever a better deal out of the club he wanted to sign for in Germany.

Articles like this get people's attention, but have little substance or repeat previous gossip. If it was the Athletic I'd take it a bit more seriously.
 
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C Montgomery Burns said:
The thing about the model going forward is that as we improve, revenues should go up to reflect that, allowing for wages to go up accordingly. It might come where we hit a natural level and what we can pay can't go up any higher, but that's when the ownership will have to look at how we do things going from there. But, as it stands we aren't at that level yet, there's still plenty of scope for commercial growth. It's growing things naturally and organically, developing our own, but also adapting as the situation changes. We have to as fans think differently from how we've been previously, and it's going to take some getting used to. I'll back the model because we've seen how things can go badly wrong chasing the dream. I'm 50 now and remember the news headlines in 1987 about us being under threat of going out of business when McBastardley was in charge. How we screwed up in the later years of Murray's ownership and ended up skint with rumours of administration and that's not counting how we were losing over £20 million a year under Short. We can't keep repeating those mistakes, because we may well end up without a club. Looking at Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Portsmouth, Reading, Barnsley, Bolton, Wigan, not to mention West Brom who are apparently in trouble, or Stoke, all of them have had issues involving finances, breaching FFP or trying some underhand accounting to get round it, and they are just a small example, there's others I've not thought about yet. I think the Accrington chairman is a gobshite, but I can see his point about football being broken and clubs risking their futures spending beyond their means chasing the dream and agree with him. If I'm honest I think more clubs will end up hit by financial problems and if they're lucky enough to come out of it they'll follow their own version of "the model".
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I hate Murdoch for all kinds of reasons. He is bad for the world, but the whole TV package has basically trapped football clubs and commercialised to such a sickening level. Players wages should come down and if a maximum wage is a ‘restraint of trade’ then trade rules also need to change.
 
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TPFNAC said:
Wages is a huge issue for football clubs and I'm glad we have a strict structure as it means we don't over stretch and keeps us on course to be sustainable.

The new ffp rules when they land will bite a lot of clubs hard and we appear to be ahead of the game on that respect.

It's also why we have to challenge the club to improve the off the field side as well as they have improved the on the field side as every extra penny made contributes massively.
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Amazes me how people still question KLD and the club's approach. This club has never been so well run yet some still want/expect big money signings
 
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TopCat_ said:
Amazes me how people still question KLD and the club's approach. This club has never been so well run yet some still want/expect big money signings
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I'd say they were in the minority now, i would say some people have concerns after the January business, which i don't think were helped by some interviews after the window closed and the feeling of "what if"

It looks like the club are addressing the squad short comings and the optimism of pre season is in full swing

Edit. Can I add that on the field the club is incredibly well run, off the field needs massive improvement
 
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TPFNAC said:
I'd say they were in the minority now, i would say some people have concerns after the January business, which i don't think were helped by some interviews after the window closed and the feeling of "what if"

It looks like the club are addressing the squad short comings and the optimism of pre season is in full swing

Edit. Can I add that on the field the club is incredibly well run, off the field needs massive improvement
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You mention January, but what was the club supposed to do? We had Stewart and Simms - a front line that was the envy of most in the division. Not easy to replace with limitless time and unlimited budget, never mind the worst month of the year to recruit and a season ending injury 24 hours before the window closed. We were left short, but I blame bad luck rather than bad performance by the recruitment team
 
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You mention January, but what was the club supposed to do? We had Stewart and Simms - a front line that was the envy of most in the division. Not easy to replace with limitless time and unlimited budget, never mind the worst month of the year to recruit and a season ending injury 24 hours before the window closed. We were left short, but I blame bad luck rather than bad performance by the recruitment team
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To be fair, Simms went back on Jan 1st which left plenty of time. Stewarts injury was unfortunate timing wise, but we suffered because Everton didn't sign anyone so Simms didn't come back.

We have learned and moved on from there though, I don't think for one minute we will be left short again
 
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TopCat_ said:
You mention January, but what was the club supposed to do? We had Stewart and Simms - a front line that was the envy of most in the division. Not easy to replace with limitless time and unlimited budget, never mind the worst month of the year to recruit and a season ending injury 24 hours before the window closed. We were left short, but I blame bad luck rather than bad performance by the recruitment team
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I think the error was not getting the third last summer. Speakman justified only having two so it was deliberate but it seemed obvious that if one player is injured there’s no sub and we didn’t have any emerging youth players to step up. We’ll find out if the lesson is learned soon enough but Mowbray has stated his position so the pressure’s on.
 
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the club cannot go down the path of signing players 'just in case xxx decides to leave'...hanging onto LND right now is costing us, we need strikers who want and can play, signing another one will require transfer/signing on fee/compensation/agents fees plus however much for wages at the same time paying for LND, then if he leaves in january the club will have little to no hope of getting a decent replacement in, as someone said earlier, he needs to sign it or get the feck out as no time for sentiment.

right now i do not particularly care as long as the club knows in plenty of time to make adjustments if needed, none of us want another half a season or even full season p1ssing about without strikers.
 
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samwise_new said:
the club cannot go down the path of signing players 'just in case xxx decides to leave'...hanging onto LND right now is costing us, we need strikers who want and can play, signing another one will require transfer/signing on fee/compensation/agents fees plus however much for wages at the same time paying for LND, then if he leaves in january the club will have little to no hope of getting a decent replacement in, as someone said earlier, he needs to sign it or get the feck out as no time for sentiment.

right now i do not particularly care as long as the club knows in plenty of time to make adjustments if needed, none of us want another half a season or even full season p1ssing about without strikers.
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Totally agree
 
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To be fair, Simms went back on Jan 1st which left plenty of time.
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Pure River Slut said:
I think the error was not getting the third last summer. Speakman justified only having two so it was deliberate but it seemed obvious that if one player is injured there’s no sub and we didn’t have any emerging youth players to step up. We’ll find out if the lesson is learned soon enough but Mowbray has stated his position so the pressure’s on.
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Yeah, wouldn't disagree. If there is blame to attach (if we must attach blame) then it's definitely the lack of 3rd striker in the summer. The Jan window is a **** show and I dispute 28 days is "plenty of time" to replace Simms
 
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