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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Bucky1989, Feb 6, 2025.

  1. SourPatch2

    SourPatch2 Well-Known Member

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    What I find interesting is that the fee that keeps being quoted by the Dortmund sources of €25m would keep him below their record transfer fee. I think the optics of their record fee being a player who's only played in the Championship are playing a factor here.
     
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  2. Bucky1989

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    Glad we’re doing this.

    if they want him, give us the money or money plus player to take it over 40m
     
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  3. Frazier the Lion

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    I don’t think we are, though. The release clause is what it is. We said we’d let him go cheaper if we didn’t go up, but we did. They can’t expect to get the move done at the discount. Given we’re willing to accept part of the money on the never never I don’t think the lad can complain too much.
     
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  4. Bucky1989

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    Question,

    do they have FFP or the equal of in Germany?
     
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    I think there’s already an element that they only paid 20m euro for Jude which was not really that long ago in the big scheme of things. Paying double for Jobe perhaps sets the wrong expectations
     
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    Someone correct me if i'm wrong here but would selling him after June be better for our PSR numbers for the upcoming season? Maybe that's why we're demanding the release clause right now because it wouldn’t help us as much.
     
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    That actually makes sense…
     
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  8. JimHeron92

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    He does yeah, just been a bit of a cock about our fans and a few other things
     
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  9. Frazier the Lion

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    Looking at reports from the time it was described as an initial fee of £25m. So 5 years ago for a less developed (albeit probably more promising) 17 year old they were willing to pay an initial 28m euro. With inflation that’s actually more than the total value of Jobe’s release clause

    edit: no not isn’t. My maths is ****. Still more than they’re currently offering though!
     
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  10. Frazier the Lion

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    I wondered about that but according to a thread OTR they take a rolling three year regardless of league. So we’d just have a profitable 24/25 to go into the calc.
     
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    a Birmingham fan I know was adamant that Mark Bellingham was furiously telling Birmingham that Jobe had to start every game otherwise he’d take him somewhere else. They told him to get stuffed and hence selling to us.

    It’s why I always did actually buy into the conspiracy theory that we were intentionally playing Jobe every game even when he was looking tired. I don’t think it was ever contractual - just a gentleman’s agreement.

    this is what I meant the other day when I said Jobe and his carefully orchestrated camp was great for us when they wanted him here, but as soon as they decide he needs to be elsewhere, there could be all sorts of funny business going on.
     
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    I've seen a few things on social media where it's been said that the club don't want Jobe to go ( and who would?) but has Jobe said something behind the scenes? If it is his parents pushing this move rather than him, could the club be pushing the price up so Dortmund don't want to pay it and he stays? The one thing that keeps niggling me is that Jobe came out and said he wants to be his own player and not compared with his brother - going to Dortmund will not afford him that

    I'm fully behind the club no matter what the reason, Jobe is our player, if you want him, this is what you have to pay
     
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    Isn't it absolutely ****ing great to see this football club getting their bloody elbows out and saying we will not be walked over. Pay the release or **** off lads.
     
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    The deal will be announced as undisclosed, as is the way these days, this saves face for both parties as they can allow each fanbase to claim they got the better end of the deal. All experts are saying we will relent on the buy-out (£34m) and agree to let him go for a little less.
     
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    Cares about his lads, nasty piece of work away from that though. Pretty negative and stuck up about the people of Sunderland (allegedly).
     
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    The brand.
     
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    I mean more about the way he goes on rather than that
     
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    This won’t see us as blocking anyone’s path to the CL.

    We agreed a release clause and we think he’s worth that, we will let him go if we get what we think he’s worth.

    That’s not blocking his path, that’s mutually benefitting both parties.
     
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    Not what I meant. Just isn’t a pleasant bloke from what I’ve heard
     
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    But he is if he expects the club to lose ten million in a competitive environment to a cash rich club because they are the Bellendinghams. I like the pair of them but their dad needs a reality check if he thinks that is fair. For the record I don’t think it’s the case, but if it is … we’re not forcing him to stay, just forcing them to pay.
     
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