Happy to have a broader discussion in the FFP thread if this becomes a back and forth, but please drop the he said she said gump. The comment about head above water is in regards to being competitive, not about surviving as a club. If we're relying on sales in order to be able to invest, then it's reliant on continually finding players we can sell at a profit. If we head into next summer unable to bring in decent money in player sales are we saying we wouldn't be able to invest? And if so we'd be.. going backwards, i.e. not keeping our heads above water. If we have no headroom for investment without player sales then that's a concern.