Glad I'm not the only one that cringed reading that.
Transfer Rumours Summer '22 Transfer Thread
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Glad I'm not the only one that cringed reading that.
-> If football is purely a business and we should support business outcomes, the Allams were some of the best owners in the EFL
Nonsense. A few more seasons and we'd have been heading out of the FL, with even less supporters attending than back in our darkest of days and virtually no revenue from merchandise, corporate or sponsorship. They had next to no idea how to run a football club as a business.
-> Tan made similar comments the other day and it's disheartening when they're marketing the club as a 'family' but their actions are saying otherwise (lowballing Honeyman and potentially Greaves' contract offers and listening to offers for them).
Do you know what was offered to Honeyman and what is being offered to Greaves et al? If not, then it really isn't helpful to the cause to state that they are 'lowballing'.
Maybe the new regime are, rightly, looking at those players with less attachment than some of us are and have a reasonable figure of their worth to us (in terms of wages to offer and transfer fee if approached). If wage demands don't match, or the offer is big enough, then maybe they feel it's in the club's best interest to let them go and replace with better at better value?
Nonsense. A few more seasons and we'd have been heading out of the FL, with even less supporters attending than back in our darkest of days and virtually no revenue from merchandise, corporate or sponsorship. They had next to no idea how to run a football club as a business.
-> Tan made similar comments the other day and it's disheartening when they're marketing the club as a 'family' but their actions are saying otherwise (lowballing Honeyman and potentially Greaves' contract offers and listening to offers for them).
Do you know what was offered to Honeyman and what is being offered to Greaves et al? If not, then it really isn't helpful to the cause to state that they are 'lowballing'.
Maybe the new regime are, rightly, looking at those players with less attachment than some of us are and have a reasonable figure of their worth to us (in terms of wages to offer and transfer fee if approached). If wage demands don't match, or the offer is big enough, then maybe they feel it's in the club's best interest to let them go and replace with better at better value?
A few more seasons? We had just been promoted as League One champions, were one of the only sustainable clubs (read: wage bill lower than income) in the EFL, and yes may have been in danger of going back to L1 but were in no danger of going out of the FL. That's alarmist rubbish. Regardless, they're gone now so not worth arguing the toss over.
Tan outright said they didn't offer Honeyman a competitive offer, so no not really guessing on that.
From OED.
rape noun (DESTRUCTION)
[ U ]
destruction of the natural world, often for profit:
The road builders were accused of the rape of the countryside.
Forgot this was a Hoffenheim forum
Keep digging that hole.
With pretty much the lowest budget, with falling income (due to their mis-management) I have little doubt that we were only heading one way. As said, given a few more seasons, there's every likelihood we would have fallen back down the divisions. It would be near impossible to defy the inevitable.
Regarding Honeyman (and Greaves) and Tans comments. Firstly, you confirm, as we know, you don't know what's been on the table. Secondly, exactly as I said, they have obviously assessed Honeymans worth to the club and were not prepared to pay more. Millwall chose to, that's their business, they maybe see him as more important to them than our new regime do to us compared to what they feel they can get elsewhere and / or what they feel we need.
In some ways I agree it's not worth arguing the toss over, but on the other hand some are already undermining the new regime with their comments and also lauding the Allams for being really good business owners. Sorry but that's just not right.
Was excellent from the get go. I can see a premier league side, say a Brighton, putting in for him.
on City. Have we lost Adama Traore already to injury? Ironically he sounds like a player, from the past, with the same initials. One Alton Thelwell. Referred to by all as Unwell. Good forbid we've signed another sicknote.
Strange reaction. You could just admit you used a word that might have upset people and you'll consider being more thoughtful in the future, but instead you chose to go the ad hominem. Shows the sort of person you are.
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Not a word I’d use in a football context but you do you.
Not really, ive just read it in that context, but if you want to argue with the accepted authority on the English language then go ahead.
You called me a princess, pretty sure that's ad hominem. Do you want me to look up the definition of that for you?
Says the person gnashing their teeth over the English language moving on from using such terms in such contexts.