Transfer Rumours Summer 2024 transfer thread
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Wouldn't be hugely surprised if Acun decides that Traore is worth keeping. Fits the bill of an Acun guy. In fact, I suspect if the fans were moaning about him not being used by Liam like they have with Pandur, he'd be getting a new deal.
Agree that the opponent had the run on Jacob and he was never going to make the 50/50 from a standing position but experience allows a player not to get caught in those situations.
The fact we've gone with defensive security as opposed to attacking intent as perfectly illustrated by that selection decision - and the defenders got done anyway suggests to me that we should probably have gone with the more offensive option.
In Liam's defence hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I can't imagine the chairman being too chuffed when thinking how many grand he's paying for Giles to get splinters in his arse watching the team not turn up at a relegation candidates and the season is still alive.
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I wouldn’t be against Traore keeping, he was pretty much unplayable last season. Didn’t really get a fair chance this season, I know he will have racked up a few minutes but they were nearly all playing out on the wing. Just as well to play Seri there IMO.
If he does stay I would expect it wouldn’t be on a massive wage, but I expect he will probably go anyway regardless. He and his agent will surely have been looking for a new club for awhile now and probably have their eyes set on something.
I don't think it's true that Jacob at left back represents the defensive option. He's very capable of being attack-minded himself. His goal against Birmingham came from a very ambitious forward run, and he made similar runs a lot in that game.
He played the last few weeks simply because Giles got an injury and he did well when he came in.
He played the last few weeks simply because Giles got an injury and he did well when he came in.
On paper I like him, but I'd really want a manager to be making a decision on him based on where he fits in. Looks like we might not have that option by the time the decision has to be made though.
He's a genuine prospect, but you've got a marquee left back with the most assists in the championship for the 3 previous seasons sat on the bench playing a bit part and we chose an academy graduate cutting his teeth who's scored in the cup and maybe has the confidence to get forward and make a telling contribution going forward maybe once a game?
We needed wins, Even I'm thinking there's something ****ing wrong there.
Anyone know what injury Anass picked up that was so serious he had to go back to Burnley.
Seems to be mixed messages there toso come off it.
Id have kept Rosenior, but from the owner/governance perspective I don't think you can say there weren't questions to be asked.
To say how tribal this forum has become over the last season (and it very much has) I'd like to point out that I think you're being especially pragmatic about this situation, which is refreshing.
As the season went on I'd gradually veered over to the 'dark side' aka the negative side. I didn't think our performances were adventurous enough and on too many occasions, it's felt like points dropped. We were too safe and ironically we often ended up punished for it. We've had some good performances, of course we had - we finished 7th so it's obviously been a good season overall, certainly when compared to the one before. The issue is, the aspiration became more than that, and from the position we were in around January, we probably should have done better than we did by the final game. I think the feelings around the Plymouth game and the performance itself sums up most of our season quite accurately.
Regardless of how anyone answers the following questions, the fact they all exist at the same time probably culminates in why Acun made the decision he did...
Why did we barely play Giles and why couldn't we get a tune out of him with the stats he's had previously?
Why persist with Allsop when he's let in numerous soft goals and when we've brought in a highly rated Pandur?
Why did Pandur get dropped out of the team completely?
Why did we play so many games with no strikers?
Why did we have so much possession in so many games but ended up drawing or losing so many of the ones where we had the most of the ball?
Why did we end up 7th after such backing in January?
Why did we have so few wins at home?
Why did it take the players to go to Tan and ask about overruling the coach to change the way we play, or at least, the mentality to go for it more?
Why did the performances after those talks immediately improve and see us scoring multiple goals and winning games?
Why did we then play so poorly against Plymouth in the final game where we needed to win to give us a chance at the playoffs?
Why did we play a 'past it' Sharp so often ahead of other options?
Why did Zaroury not perform? Another player who's done well at this level.
Why did Ömur initially keep getting dropped?
Why did Tufan keep getting dropped?
Why has the decision making in the final third been so poor at times?
There's probably more questions I can't think of that were floating around in Acun's head over the past few months that lead to this. But looking at it logically, I can see why he chose to act, and why now as well. It's a shame, and on the surface it looks potentially naive, but if I'm being honest with myself I think the decision to gamble on a different manager was almost inevitable. I honestly couldn't see Rosenior getting us promoted with the style of play and default playing mentality he instilled. Acun just reached the conclusion that someone else should get a shot at it sooner than I did. At least this way someone gets to be involved right from the start of the season, whether the decision pays off or not.
1. Giles got injured and Jacob wasn't poor enough to justify dropping.
2. It's a brave manager to throw a 21 year old foreign keeper into a play off battle when injury/suspension doesn't dictate.
3. Valid question.
4. No striker justified starting over a front 4 of Philogene/Tufan/Omur/Carvalho. Ohio justified this by showing how good he looked after a training block.
5. Valid question. I'd point to away performances to suggest that dropping points at home may have had more intangible factors than just the style though.
6. Delap injury, Seri AFCON (for all our January recruitment we didn't bring in a replacement for him), Philogene injury, Giles and Zaroury injuries.
7. See 5.
8. This still isn't FACT. But if it did happen why did they not perform against Plymouth? I still think our issue was more a young team's mentality issues than a coaching issue.
9. I think the selection decisions helped this moreso than anything else - Omur and Tufan coming into the lineup over Zaroury for instance. Plus just the teams we played being teams happy to have a go against us like Cov and Ipswich rather than Milwall and Stoke.
10. See 8.
11. We didn't play him 'so often' otherwise that runs counter to your question 4 about not playing strikers. He and Ohio got chances and failed to impress so didn't play.
12. Zaroury scored two goals and could have had a third on debut against Milwall, but took a while to get going then suffered injury.
13. Going out of the XI doesn't equal being dropped. He had a low fitness base coming into the team and was adjusting to a new country so was eased in. By the end of the season he and Ohio both looked a lot better so hard to argue with their handling.
14. Valid question but again it links into your 4th question. We only have so many spots in the XI, we can't complain about players coming in and out if we have 5-6 good options for 4 spots, and then also complain about players not getting a chance.
15. See 5 and 8. I think it is more that we have a young team than anything else.
I agree with you that a lot of these questions can come together to paint a picture, but breaking them down there's a variety of answers that apply.
One of better posts I’ve seen in this thread. Just imagine Rosie, new signings bedded in and we are bottom half after 10 games and 2/3 turgid draws. Acun is pulling the fire button. Even if we are top half but still some boring football, Acun would have doubt.
Imagine Rosenior, new signings bedded in, pushing for the Top 2. Guess that's all we can do now.
Again it's being over complicated.
Acun had faith (or kept his patience hoping) that Rosenior would start to consistently deliver the exciting attacking football that he made clear he wanted since literally day one. Rosenior said it would come, most memorably for me during last summer's window. It didn't come, other than on rare occasions in fits and starts. That's it.
Direct Line. End of drama #thosethatknowknow
Acun had faith (or kept his patience hoping) that Rosenior would start to consistently deliver the exciting attacking football that he made clear he wanted since literally day one. Rosenior said it would come, most memorably for me during last summer's window. It didn't come, other than on rare occasions in fits and starts. That's it.
Direct Line. End of drama #thosethatknowknow
Wishful thinking Syd, Rosenior would’ve been starting from scratch again due to turnover of the players who made his system win games
Well that was my point. If someone wants to throw up a hypothetical if us being bottom 10 I can throw one up.
Is it suggesting people are far right for wanting a black manager to do his job correctly?Far right...what the hell are you going on about now?
It doesn't matter how slow I read it, play offs next season is an improvement
'Far right' 'woke' 'left' 'gammon' or whatever you think people are, the quicker people realise we are being played by a handful of people the better. They are laughing at us.
Football is literally the one thing they cant divide us on because people should be united behind one cause, their team. Stop playing the game they want you to play Ben. Categorising people in life wont end well for you. Having a different view is fine but to suggest people on this board are 'Far Right' which I take to mean racist and homophobic parasites is really low. You could not have made that judgement from anything posted on here surely?
We can't get rid if no one wants to buy him, and I suspect those Turkish teams who would want him wouldn't be able to match the wages we've given him. Basically, like with Ryan Woods, we're stuck.
If you don’t understand the comment it’s probably best not commenting rather than making it into something it’s not.
I don’t need your life advice. You don’t understand enough of life to offer any that’s worthwhile.
People on here are racist & homophobic, I didn’t infer that anyone had commented on this thread but definitely in this forum.
Thanks for the advice Ben. You have a lovely day and I will keep trying to be more worthwhile and understand life as well as you with your name calling and categorising of people.