Transfer Rumours Summer 2024 transfer thread

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PLT said:
Surely every system is designed to create chances. If it's as simple as that then we'll be laughing.
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Let’s not nit pick what I said, Walter has a track record of producing the most high quality chances across both seasons at Hamburg. Every system is designed to create them, of course. Some are designed to create them much more often/better quality. I doubt we’ll see many games this season where we never look like scoring unlike last season. Of course we’ll have games we’ll be frustrated and so on but they’ll be much more on the players in front of goal this season rather than what’s leading upto it
 
NewcastleTiger said:
Of course but I think they’re acknowledging that now hence they’re not going to blow it all this season and build an actual squad beyond this season as well versus going all out yet again
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If we sign 5 loan players this window as Baz has mentioned, that completely goes against building a long term squad, doesn't it?

And let's not forget, loans are ****ing expensive these days.
 
PLT said:
...., and if he really wanted to see him in person I'd have thought that could've happened 10 days earlier and we'd be further down the road with him now...
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I'd imagine discussions between both clubs, Oscar, Tan and Tim have been ongoing for a while and have taken a bit of time.
I also very much doubt the club would have forced the return unless Oscar himself was up for it.
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
Hang on, everyone's happy to shed high wage earners like Tufan but think it's sensible bringing a high wage earner like Oscar back? <laugh>
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I thought that too. Plus we don't get that £3m fee for him so it's a massive financial shift by the time you include wages too. Clearly, we don't know whether Bahia had any intention of triggering the purchase option.
 
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Can’t see anything wrong with bringing Oscar back, comical a man who would have been our top scorer with his highest tally of 13 as ever a bad thing. Especially if it’s get balls into dangerous areas I can’t think of someone better and especially without having to spend a fee. Could play well off someone who knows? Might be a sub? Scored a few belters and looked sharp in pre season, knows where the onion bag is. I’d rather we didn’t sign Zaroury and had him to bring on over Sharp last season.
 
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How did people cope when we just had The Hull Daily / Sports Mail and passing mention on Blunderside, having to wait until the beginning of the season before having panicoronaries about the latest squad...
 
Nikica Jellyfish said:
Can’t see anything wrong with bringing Oscar back, comical a man who would have been our top scorer with his highest tally of 13 as ever a bad thing. Especially if it’s get balls into dangerous areas I can’t think of someone better and especially without having to spend a fee. Could play well off someone who knows? Might be a sub? Scored a few belters and looked sharp in pre season, knows where the onion bag is. I’d rather we didn’t sign Zaroury and had him to bring on over Sharp last season.
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Tufan scored 10 for us last season, I'd have thought it sensible to hold onto him too.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Tufan scored 10 for us last season, I'd have thought it sensible to hold onto him too.
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I'm sure people will say it's a coincidence but since LR was fired a lot of people have decided they don't want to be here any more. Ignoring the loanes and Greaves and Jaden as they were always going; the Head of Recruitment has gone, the keeper coach has too, Tufan's gone, Mika looks like going and Allsop has gone too.

It's quite a lot of unexpected churn in a short space of time.
 
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Shark Sports said:
If we sign 5 loan players this window as Baz has mentioned, that completely goes against building a long term squad, doesn't it?

And let's not forget, loans are ****ing expensive these days.
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Depends how many permanent signings we make alongside it and the aim of said loan signings. I’ve already heard of one we are doing with an option so it’s got a long term aim
 
PLT said:
Oscar showed he clearly had something about him in that first season. He's good at attacking crosses when they come and he can be a good physical presence with his back to goal at times, and unlike many big strikers he doesn't constantly foul people. I think the team around him being a bit of a mess made it hard to judge him as the goals dried up.

When Rosenior got rid of him I thought it made sense based on the reasons given; he wasn't fit often enough, was on a big wage, and wasn't suited to the pressing game we wanted to play.

Baz saying he's been brought back to have a look at him sounds a bit strange, particularly with the timing; I would hope that Walter has already seen plenty of footage of Oscar and knows whether he's the type of player he wants, and if he really wanted to see him in person I'd have thought that could've happened 10 days earlier and we'd be further down the road with him now. Hopefully Baz is making Tim sound less certain about it than he Is.

I hope that we're not taking a gamble on his fitness, particularly I hope it's not another Super Lig situation where he's been in a country that doesn't take fitness levels as seriously and ends up getting injured constantly when trying to play at English intensity levels. I still don't really understand what Walter's style is; I'd have thought he'd want strikers who can press like LR did if he's supposedly this super modern, attacking manager. Lots of questions around this move for me.
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Wouldn't be surprised if there's more than a hint of PR about the decision to bring him back.
SydneyTiger14 said:
Hang on, everyone's happy to shed high wage earners like Tufan but think it's sensible bringing a high wage earner like Oscar back? <laugh>
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I assume the Brazilian club has no intention of triggering their option. In that case it makes sense given the fact we don't have a senior striker on the books.

Gives us the ability to regain control of our asset earlier and it's good PR ahead of the turkey trip, given the ownership are now coming under significant scrutiny.
 
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Shark Sports said:
I'm sure people will say it's a coincidence but since LR was fired a lot of people have decided they don't want to be here any more. Ignoring the loanes and Greaves and Jaden as they were always going; the Head of Recruitment has gone, the keeper coach has too, Tufan's gone, Mika looks like going and Allsop has gone too.

It's quite a lot of unexpected churn in a short space of time.
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I'm yet to see or hear anything really compelling about Seri going.
 
Shark Sports said:
I'm sure people will say it's a coincidence but since LR was fired a lot of people have decided they don't want to be here any more. Ignoring the loanes and Greaves and Jaden as they were always going; the Head of Recruitment has gone, the keeper coach has too, Tufan's gone, Mika looks like going and Allsop has gone too.

It's quite a lot of unexpected churn in a short space of time.
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Tufan has gone to a champions league club in his home nation. Saudi is a big payday for Seri. We aren’t an attractive club regardless those 2 make sense entirely.

Darnborough who knows. Track record and reputation isn’t great anyway. Baz Richardson is the worrying one but suppose people with certain morales would probably walk out after how Rosie was handled
 
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NewcastleTiger said:
Tufan has gone to a champions league club in his home nation. Saudi is a big payday for Seri. We aren’t an attractive club regardless those 2 make sense entirely.

Darnborough who knows. Track record and reputation isn’t great anyway. Baz Richardson is the worrying one but suppose people with certain morales would probably walk out after how Rosie was handled
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There was Pennock before though, so maybe we're reading too much into Baz leaving - but then it's difficult to imagine him not having reservations about the owners Allsop comments. I would if it was one of my team.

Its significant that Daws has stayed, and I assume Johnny Eyre.

I'd be asking searching questions if they went as well though.
 
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