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Prehistoric Bob said:
I spoke to green of newco rangers in the summer an he alerted me that if some one came in for Aluko he wouldn't e able to claim anything and he'd be able to go on a FAT. When I bumped into SB in Iceland car park after doing his weekly shop 2 weeks ago I alerted him to the situation. FACT
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tigerscar said:
Mike White says Aluko deal should almost certainly be completed and announced tomorrow. We'll wait and see.
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Anybody else read this and think "they said that yesterday"?

Im confident it will get dine, just a bit confused as to why it hasn't already. If the Rangers thing isn't a problem, what's holding it up?
 
yeah strange one.. should be completed by now. hopefully we have it all signed & sealed and for whatever reason we just cant announce it yet..
 
Tommytiger said:
Anybody else read this and think "they said that yesterday"?

Im confident it will get dine, just a bit confused as to why it hasn't already. If the Rangers thing isn't a problem, what's holding it up?
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The Rangers thing is what's holding it up.

Under normal circumstances when we sign him we'd ask the SFA for his international clearance, they'd say yes and the deal would be done.

In these circumstances when we sign him we ask the SFA for international clearance, they say no because there's a dispute about his contractual position, we contact FIFA to ask for temporary clearance, they grant it, then the deal is done with the potential for compo to be dealt with later.

We know FIFA will give the temporary clearance because we've already seen them give it to other players in the same position so it's not a problem, but we still have to go through the motions before confirming it all and the situation makes it a longer process to complete than it would normally be.

Geo's ICV is right, he's happy enough to be joining us that he's playing in behind closed doors games (I don't think he can play at the weekend without receiving IC though), there's nothing to worry about, it's just dotting 'i's and crossing 't's.
 
Ricardo said:
The Rangers thing is what's holding it up.

Under normal circumstances when we sign him we'd ask the SFA for his international clearance, they'd say yes and the deal would be done.

In these circumstances when we sign him we ask the SFA for international clearance, they say no because there's a dispute about his contractual position, we contact FIFA to ask for temporary clearance, they grant it, then the deal is done with the potential for compo to be dealt with later.

We know FIFA will give the temporary clearance because we've already seen them give it to other players in the same position so it's not a problem, but we still have to go through the motions before confirming it all and the situation makes it a longer process to complete than it would normally be.

Geo's ICV is right, he's happy enough to be joining us that he's playing in behind closed doors games (I don't think he can play at the weekend without receiving IC though), there's nothing to worry about, it's just dotting 'i's and crossing 't's.
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I know I'm over simplifying it but how can this step take so long? Getting temporary clearance from FIFA should go like this:

HCAFC: "Can we have temporary clearance please?"

FIFA: "Yes."

How can that exchange add an extra 2 days to the process?
 
i saw the premier league tigers said:
I know I'm over simplifying it but how can this step take so long? Getting temporary clearance from FIFA should go like this:

HCAFC: "Can we have temporary clearance please?"

FIFA: "Yes."
had to honour the newco contract

How can that exchange add an extra 2 days to the process?
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We sign him and it's decieded that he has to honour the newco contract or pay a transfer fee.
Who's liable player or club?
It's on a tempory clearence after all
 
i saw the premier league tigers said:
I know I'm over simplifying it but how can this step take so long? Getting temporary clearance from FIFA should go like this:

HCAFC: "Can we have temporary clearance please?"

FIFA: "Yes."

How can that exchange add an extra 2 days to the process?
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Because it's FIFA so it involves beurocracy, and they probably don't have someone to deal with these situations full time because for most transfers it's a case of filing the paperwork rather than making a decision (even though in this case the decision is essentially premade, it'll need the right people to sign off the paperwork, that's why all the other Rangers players to have moved were given clearance on the same day)

I think the process actually goes through our FA. So we send the original documents to them, they contact the SFA to check on suspensions and the contract situation, the SFA say no, the FA tell us, we tell the FA to contact FIFA, they contact FIFA, FIFA contact the SFA to find out the details of things (they need to check whether it's more than just the contract thing they're approving), the SFA replies to FIFA, someone at FIFA rubber stamps the transfer and tells our FA, the FA approve his registration and contact us, we confirm the transfer.

All the communications are generally done by fax so that there's hard copies of all the paperwork even in this day and age, so there's probably several more stages asking for them to send through the relevent forms for people to fill in.
 
doveston said:
We sign him and it's decieded that he has to honour the newco contract or pay a transfer fee.
Who's liable player or club?
It's on a tempory clearence after all
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From a legal point of view both. Newco could take the players to court for breach of contract and/or take the clubs to FIFA tribunals for signing their player without having agreed a fee with them (or SFA tribunals if they joined another SFA club).

If they go for pursuing both us and the player then the compensation from whichever case was decided first would be taken into account when setting the compo for the second. So assuming the player was ordered to pay £100k, if FIFA then decided that Rangers were due £200k in their rules the club would only be due to pay the remaining £100k. (obviously it would be reported as them setting it at £100k when it came to it).

Edit: If compo is awarded I'd be surprised if it was even that high so it's really not worth worrying about. And FIFA wouldn't be punishing the club with transfer embargos or anything for making illegal approaches because they've given us permission to now.
 
Ricardo said:
All the communications are generally done by fax so that there's hard copies of all the paperwork even in this day and age, so there's probably several more stages asking for them to send through the relevent forms for people to fill in.
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What is the point of faxes? Why not email? Is it because they can be certain where the fax came from? Does that matter when it's the signature that is important?
 
Done deal I think as hull city official just started following him
On twitter! Something they wouldn't do if a deal was going to fall through I think!
 
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