Shiney Row dog attack ...

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... sounds fatal.

A man has been arrested after another man was "seriously injured" by a dog, Northumbria Police say.

Officers were called to a report of a dog attack at an address on Maple Terrace, Shiney Row, just before 19:00.

In a statement, the force said the animal was "destroyed at the scene" and "there is no wider risk to the public".

A second dog was also seized from the address as a precaution, police said, urging people to refrain from speculating online about what happened.

There has, so far, been no information released about the breed of the dogs.

The man who was arrested is 44 years old and "remains in custody at this time", police said, late on Tuesday evening.

Meanwhile the man in hospital, who is in his 50s, suffered "serious injuries".
 
It doesn’t sound good like. Have mates who live nearby, I wouldn’t repeat on here what they’ve said about the attack…
 
Murder investigation after suspected fatal 'XL Bully' attack in Shiney Row area of Sunderland (sunderlandecho.com)

When I used to show Dogs, I followed this hobby in 'The Dog Press'.
At one time, they expressed concern at what they were hearing about a new breed, coming across from USA, called Pit Bull Terriers.
They had been bred for dog fighting, but the main concern was what MIGHT happen WHEN they got into the wrong hands.
Attempts by The Kennel Club to alert The Government of the day, fell on deaf ears.

By the time The Authorities caught on it was too late.
The result was 'The Dangerous Dogs Act' which was not particularly effective.
One of the problems was the difficulty in identifying any particular dog as a Pitbull, rather than just a large, harmless, bull terrier, or even a bull terrier cross.
And of course, those who claimed that the problem wasn't The Breed, but the wrong people being the owners.

Until recently when the child was attacked on a garage forecourt, I'd never heard of this 'breed'.
I hope that lessons were learned from the Pitbull fiasco, so that quick, effective action can be taken this time round.
It may well prove necessary to destroy some nice friendly dogs, along with the bad ones, in order to solve the problem.
 
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Gets to a point where common sense has to prevail. I don't care how lovely or soft as clarts you think your dog is at the end of the day it's about 50kg of solid muscle with an unpredictable temperament. It's not that far removed from owning a adolescent tiger. The average dog owner simply cannot respond effectively when one of these things flips.
 
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Paperback Ruiter said:
Gets to a point where common sense has to prevail. I don't care how lovely or soft as clarts you think your dog is at the end of the day it's about 50kg of solid muscle with an unpredictable temperament. It's not that far removed from owning an adolescent tiger. The average dog owner simply cannot respond effectively when one of these things flips.
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Why can they all not be at least muzzled?
 
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Paperback Ruiter said:
Gets to a point where common sense has to prevail. I don't care how lovely or soft as clarts you think your dog is at the end of the day it's about 50kg of solid muscle with an unpredictable temperament. It's not that far removed from owning a adolescent tiger. The average dog owner simply cannot respond effectively when one of these things flips.
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I think that is pretty reasonable. I am a dog lover but these incidents are way too common. I have been around dogs all my life, and wouldnt be without them, but this breed wouldnt be for me. 50kg is a lot of weight to hold if they if they react, and they do seem reactive. I see pictures of people walking two of them and think you have no chance of controlling them.

If you look online there are hundreds for sale in this country. Prices have naturally fallen as well. I wonder how many of these end up with people who havent got a clue how to manage them. It is worrying.

I know a guy who trains dogs for a living. Imcluding protection dogs. He has a brilliant reputation with reactive or aggressive dogs. I rescued a border collie / lab that was 2 years old a few years ago. After 2 days I knew I had been told a load of rubbish about this dogs background. She had no idea what a gate or stile was, had never seen any sort of livestock and was massively reactive to any dog. I had a couple of springers at the time and they put her in her place, but anything else was a problem. After 2 months I was making only tiny progress on the reactive side and she had assumed the role of protecting the house and family. Nobody could come in the house (apart from a female neighbour oddly). I took her to this dog trainer and he did all sorts with her. I used to drop her off at his small holding on a morning and he would have her for the day, working with his sheepdogs. She was smart and clever, but would invariably start the day with a scrap with something until she was put in her place in the pack. Once back home no improvement though. I even tried dog psycology but nothing. After over £1000 in training fees over a year, I had to call it a day. She was dangerous in effect and muzzled when out and I knew she wasnt happy. It was also draining as I couldnt trust anybody else in the family to walk her. Because she had taken to sheepdog work a local farmer took her on. God knows what her first 2 years were like to make her what she was. Shows that dogs arent always predictable and these bigger ones are too risky for the vast majority of people.
 
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Another terrible tragic incident. XL bulldogs have become the latest "fad" and bred without any thought for temperament etc.

English bulldogs have been over bred to them point where they have major health issues, thanks in part to the ridiculous breed standards of the Kennel Club, but also feeding on the publics demand for these beautiful dogs.

The biggest loser in this will be the old Thyme Bulldogs, which the Kennel Club refuse to recognise despite the serious, scientific breeding they went through in an attempt to get the bulldog back to the breed it was meant to be and without the health issues current "churchill" bulldogs have.

Breeders then realised that taking an old tyme bulldog and breeding it to make these XL bulldogs was a lucrative easy way to make money, the fad caught hold and we have this sad mess now.

Licensed breeding is the only way to stop this mess
 
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FellTop said:
I think that is pretty reasonable. I am a dog lover but these incidents are way too common. I have been around dogs all my life, and wouldnt be without them, but this breed wouldnt be for me. 50kg is a lot of weight to hold if they if they react, and they do seem reactive. I see pictures of people walking two of them and think you have no chance of controlling them.

If you look online there are hundreds for sale in this country. Prices have naturally fallen as well. I wonder how many of these end up with people who havent got a clue how to manage them. It is worrying.

I know a guy who trains dogs for a living. Imcluding protection dogs. He has a brilliant reputation with reactive or aggressive dogs. I rescued a border collie / lab that was 2 years old a few years ago. After 2 days I knew I had been told a load of rubbish about this dogs background. She had no idea what a gate or stile was, had never seen any sort of livestock and was massively reactive to any dog. I had a couple of springers at the time and they put her in her place, but anything else was a problem. After 2 months I was making only tiny progress on the reactive side and she had assumed the role of protecting the house and family. Nobody could come in the house (apart from a female neighbour oddly). I took her to this dog trainer and he did all sorts with her. I used to drop her off at his small holding on a morning and he would have her for the day, working with his sheepdogs. She was smart and clever, but would invariably start the day with a scrap with something until she was put in her place in the pack. Once back home no improvement though. I even tried dog psycology but nothing. After over £1000 in training fees over a year, I had to call it a day. She was dangerous in effect and muzzled when out and I knew she wasnt happy. It was also draining as I couldnt trust anybody else in the family to walk her. Because she had taken to sheepdog work a local farmer took her on. God knows what her first 2 years were like to make her what she was. Shows that dogs arent always predictable and these bigger ones are too risky for the vast majority of people.
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I got a rescue dog and it didnt end well, we had to take her back to the rescue that we got her from, it broke my heart, but you dont know what they have been through with previous owners the only thing I would advise people is, if you are going to get a rescue dog, get a puppy, and by puppy I mean 8 to 10 weeks old
 
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The owner of a dangerous dog needs locking up if they attack anyone. The bully xl breed needs removing from our society as soon as.
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That is the answer, and it seems the arsehole in question is facing murder charges .

Any injury caused by any dog is the direct and sole responsibility of the owner who should be punished as if he committed the violence.
 
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That is the answer, and it seems the arsehole in question is facing murder charges .

Any injury caused by any dog is the direct and sole responsibility of the owner who should be punished as if he committed the violence.
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I'm largely with you on that. I think both owner and dog should be licenced too.

At the moment anyone can just buy any dog they choose. You see some people who are physically incapable of controlling their dog, and that's without them necessarily acting aggressively. They wouldn't have a chance if the dog went off on one.
 
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XL bullies are awful dogs **** knows why anyone wants one other than for attention. Pig ugly looking things that shouldn’t be around kids at all. I’ve 3 dogs myself so it’s definitely not just a rant because I dislike dogs but they just shouldn’t be allowed, I’m bored of this “it’s not the dog it’s the owner” crack. They’re animals at the end of the day they all have it in them but most dogs can be controlled with ease by an adult if they decided to attack or snack.

An XL bully cannot and unfortunately the owners are too f*cking stupid to grab a knife and use it when their dog is mauling someone on their property.

Missus wants a Rottweiler and I’ve already said there’s absolutely not a chance we’re having a dog she couldn’t control if it decided to act up and I wasn’t there. Even a fairly strong bloke would struggle with a dog that’s 10+ stone. It’s just irresponsible and I wouldn’t feel comfortable whatsoever knowing it could pose a risk.
 
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WorkyTicketFTM said:
XL bullies are awful dogs **** knows why anyone wants one other than for attention. Pig ugly looking things that shouldn’t be around kids at all. I’ve 3 dogs myself so it’s definitely not just a rant because I dislike dogs but they just shouldn’t be allowed, I’m bored of this “it’s not the dog it’s the owner” crack. They’re animals at the end of the day they all have it in them but most dogs can be controlled with ease by an adult if they decided to attack or snack.

An XL bully cannot and unfortunately the owners are too f*cking stupid to grab a knife and use it when their dog is mauling someone on their property.

Missus wants a Rottweiler and I’ve already said there’s absolutely not a chance we’re having a dog she couldn’t control if it decided to act up and I wasn’t there. Even a fairly strong bloke would struggle with a dog that’s 10+ stone. It’s just irresponsible and I wouldn’t feel comfortable whatsoever knowing it could pose a risk.
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I agree , they are ugly , actually look miserable and I can’t understand bringing into a family when it’s more usual for kids to want a cute fluffy puppy.
To me , even the owners who claim to be responsible with a well trained bully are deep down worried - you don’t see them being taken for a fun day on the beach
 
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