Second Referendum

I think that you are underestimating the ability of some countries to see through the facade. If you are under thirty you may see a version of democracy arrive in Turkey. In Russia most political enemies are removed, but I would not call it a democracy.

 

There are many ways to remove a political enemy from the running, the media have been doing it for decades in Europe and the US

 

gotta say it, this is the most civil non crazy Brexit thread I have ever happened upon

Mind you I haven't started salt mining yet

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lol wow, just watched this. Someone had their arse handed to them

 

What have strategic arms limitation talks have to do with a second referendum

 

Mind you

Took me about 10 secs to cop that

 

I’m laughing as it quite simply won’t happen. Not in 2021, nor anytime in the foreseeable future.

 

You say that but all I see is your sig.


Careful, hubris..

 

Quietly confident

 

I have to admit, my confidence level for the timeline of 2021 2022 is not "high". Too many unknown variables

 

True.

Erdogan is a dictator in all but name. Like all his ilk he won’t relinquish power willingly.

 

Same for the EU commission

You live in Spain right, now there is utterly bent political system

 

Touché

There’s at least an illusion of democracy. Erdogan has shelved even that?

 

Several EU states have an appearance of democracy, normally though it is smaller ones where all of the politicians and business people went to school together. Ireland is a perfect example actually

 

**** is brb Irish? shhhhh

 

I think brb deserves an award, how many of you ****s would be out burning cars and assaulting people because of political beliefs if this site was not here

 

There’s patronage in just about every political system.

Ireland at least has free elections. You won’t see any of that from Erdogan. Or if you do, they’ll be Putin style elections.

 

what do you mean Putin style elections? What happened in the Russian elections? I am not at all up on that topic I must admit, mainly due to a lack of knowledge of the Russian language.

 

More representative than the U.K. though. More regional autonomy than the U.K. Works well unless one region wants more than the others

 

I think it’s pretty clear what happens in any “election” in Russia. Putin wins.