Scotch Independence - the countdown

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

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gas. said:
**** sake Mick you don't need to be told that's because the proddies and kafflicks are too busy to bother with the mainstream parties in the rest of the uk.
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Also their party manifestos don't come out that well in a picture-book format <ok>
 
Just watched BBC Scotland news. This Devo-Max option of tax raising powers is worse than the status-quo - I'd literally rather nothing changed than have that. The regional Assemblies will be able to increase (not decrease) income tax but are not allowed to touch anything else? So the choice is basically chase the middle class across the border (to England, or ROI in NI's case) - or do **** all different from Westminster.
 
Regardless of the outcome, Scotland will be a politically-divided country after the referendum. The idea that an independent Scotland will be a progressive, socialist utopia compared with evil, Tory-voting England is a myth. Contrary to popular belief, the SNP aren't democratic socialists. They're not even centre, let alone centre-left. I know a Yes vote isn't for Salmond or the SNP, but I don't see Scotland voting for the proper socialist parties like the Greens or the SSP. Despite what The Guardian tells its readers, left-wing politics aren't popular in Britain. A lot of people in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are small-c conservatives.

Good luck to all Scots regardless of the outcome, but don't fool yourselves into thinking you'll be like Scandinavia if a Yes vote happens.
 
Patches O'Houlihan said:
Regardless of the outcome, Scotland will be a politically-divided country after the referendum. The idea that an independent Scotland will be a progressive, socialist utopia compared with evil, Tory-voting England is a myth. Contrary to popular belief, the SNP aren't democratic socialists. They're not even centre, let alone centre-left. I know a Yes vote isn't for Salmond or the SNP, but I don't see Scotland voting for the proper socialist parties like the Greens or the SSP. Despite what The Guardian tells its readers, left-wing politics aren't popular in Britain, and a lot of people in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are small-c conservatives.
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Scotland will be whatever its people want it to be. This idea that Scotland can't govern itself is stupid. Hundreds of other countries somehow manage to do it.
 
Once again, Patches hits it home with consummate aplomb.

It's a Yes for this Dandy Don.

The Yes supporters are undesirable ****s and if it weren't for them, I'd be ripping the Union flag off my wall and putting the Lion rampant up but the mixture of xenophobic caber tossers and unrepentant fenian bastards leaves a distinct taste of porridge and priest spunk in the mouth.

So it's a No for this Bully Wee ****.
 
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