Scotch Independence - the countdown

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

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yes but labour were lovingly for strikes and **** all getting done in Britain.

hence thatcher.

oh and **** a central belt run Scotland, no better than Westminster.

plus the arrogance and presumptions of an independent Scotland is farcical.

Do you want to lever any more wum material into that?
 

Aye typicslly uninformed clap trap . There was a reason there were strikes . The Tories under Heath also had inflation running at over 20% whilst trying to cap wages and at the same time giving massive tax cuts to the rich .

Then there was the fact that oil prices shot up by 70% .

But it was all the Bolshy unions fault . <laugh>
 
Aye typicslly uninformed clap trap . There was a reason there were strikes . The Tories under Heath also had inflation running at over 20% whilst trying to cap wages and at the same time giving massuve rax cuts to the rich .

Then there was the fact that oil prices shot up by 70% .

But it was all the Bolshy unions fault .

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Christ you are thick.

the whole reason Britain went to war was to re-elect the tories.

Aye because *****s like you got all misty eyed and got your wee union jacks out to wave and hancour fir the colonies .

Worked a treat .

Betche ye soiled your breeks when Maggie donned her tank commanders garb <laugh>
 
Down with Labour and the Tories - less Government is the answer to consistently **** Government.
 
No it isn't. It was lack of government regulation worldwide that allowed bankers to **** the world's economy for the 2nd time in less than a hundred years.

There's been booms and busts for hundreds of years, this is the first one where government intervention made public the loses of private individuals. Iceland's government let their banks go bust (and jailed the bankers for fraud) - we're going to be stuck in a 20 year stagflation due to our governments actions in not letting mostly rich investors lose. Furthermore almost all western governments went from Keynesian stimulus to Hayekian austerity over the space of about two years - that was two polar opposite solutions on how to fix the same problem, which indicates they had absolutely no ****ing idea what they were doing.

I'd be all up for more government intervention in the economy if there was any proof that anyone knew what they were doing.
 
There's been booms and busts for hundreds of years, this is the first one where government intervention made public the loses of private individuals. Iceland's government let their banks go bust (and jailed the bankers for fraud) - we're going to be stuck in a 20 year stagflation due to our governments actions in not letting mostly rich investors lose. Furthermore almost all western governments went from Keynesian stimulus to Hayekian austerity over the space of about two years - that was two polar opposite solutions on how to fix the same problem, which indicates they had absolutely no ****ing idea what they were doing.

I'd be all up for more government intervention in the economy if there was any proof that anyone knew what they were doing.

They don't and hence why the State should refrain from intervention.

Their intervention has stopped the financial systems from properly fixing their problems and will lead investors and stockbrokers into thinking that they are even more invincible than how invincible they already think they are, essentially meaning that the next financial crash could be round the corner.

#ftq
 
They don't and hence why the State should refrain from intervention.

Their intervention has stopped the financial systems from properly fixing their problems and will lead investors and stockbrokers into thinking that they are even more invincible than how invincible they already think they are, essentially meaning that the next financial crash could be round the corner.

#ftp

You're 'p' was the wrong way round there bud.

Fixed it for you pal.

Safe journey home mate.

Take it easy chief.
 
You're 'p' was the wrong way round there bud.

Fixed it for you pal.

Safe journey home mate.

Take it easy chief.

The acronym 'ftq' was actually me signing off as;

'Formerly the Queefster'

and how I am travelling home tonight;

'Ferry to Queensferry'

and what I'm having for dinner;

'French tripe quiche'

#ftq
 
The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty isa government strong enough to protect it's people, and a people strong enough and informed enough to maintain it's soveriegn control over the government.

-F D Roosevelt
 
Mick is basically a Tea Party supporter, shame he's in the wrong country.

No abortions and more guns <grr> <grr>
 
The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty isa government strong enough to protect it's people, and a people strong enough and informed enough to maintain it's soveriegn control over the government.

-F D Roosevelt

Every element in the New Deal program: central planning, creation of a network of compulsory cartels for industry and agriculture, inflation and credit expansion, artificial raising of wage rates and promotion of unions within the overall monopoly structure, government regulation and ownership, all this had been anticipated and adumbrated during the previous two decades.12 And this program, with its privileging of various big business interests at the top of the collectivist heap, was in no sense reminiscent of socialism or leftism; there was nothing smacking of the egalitarian or the proletarian here. No, the kinship of this burgeoning collectivism was not at all with socialism–communism but with fascism, or socialism-of-the-right, a kinship which many big businessmen of the twenties expressed openly in their yearning for abandonment of a quasi-laissez-faire system for a collectivism which they could control. And, surely, William Howard Taft, Woodrow Wilson, and Herbert Clark Hoover make far more recognizable figures as proto-Fascists than they do as crypto-communists.

Murray Rothbard

Mick is basically a Tea Party supporter, shame he's in the wrong country.

No abortions and more guns

It is interesting to observe that in the year 1935 the average individual’s incurious attitude towards the phenomenon of the State is precisely what his attitude was towards the phenomenon of the Church in the year, say, 1500. The State was then a very weak institution; the Church was very strong. The individual was born into the Church, as his ancestors had been for generations, in precisely the formal, documented fashion in which he is now born into the State. He was taxed for the Church’s support, as he now is for the State’s support. He was supposed to accept the official theory and doctrine of the Church, to conform to its discipline, and in a general way to do as it told him; again, precisely the sanctions that the State now lays upon him. If he were reluctant or recalcitrant, the Church made a satisfactory amount of trouble for him, as the State now does. Notwithstanding all this, it does not appear to have occurred to the Church- citizen of that day, any more than it occurs to the State-citizen of the present, to ask what sort of institution it was that claimed his allegiance.

Albert Jay Nock

The rank and file, those whose principal preoccupation is with the problem of existence, are in no mood to argue with the beneficent State; they are for letting well enough alone. Those Americans who have pretensions to over-average capacities are also quite willing to put their self-esteem on the barrelhead. The entrepreneur whose venture would not exist but for government loans or government contracts readily makes peace with government regulation. So long as government bonds pay interest, the banker will not quarrel with government intervention. The farmer does not object to a meddlesome federal agent who brings him a gratuity, and the professor who lives by subsidies will write books in praise of the subsidizing State. Who wants freedom?

Frank Chodorov