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[Sir Cheshire Ben]

So the updated m the first page of the first thread above, which was the one asking for very specific suggestions for the Trust, and an update as to what was done as far as I am aware, is;

1. Trust use an account on here to ask for suggestions for particular topics / campaigns, and they also ask any relevant questions about unsolicited suggestions made by people on this thread. - I don't think the Trust do have a formal account on here (other than the one which OLM lost the password for) Personally I do think that would be useful as it would be official voice of the Trust rather than people taking comments from individuals with positions in the Trust as being that
2. Suggestion deleted at request of person who made it
3. The Trust should consider a 'meet the Trust' social event or run a coach to away matches - Not done as that, but anyone can attend the AGM anyway I think?
4. Trust should consider setting up a youth football team - Not done but they do support an adult team I think?
5. Trust should look to arrange matches with other fan groups and/or for disabled groups - There have been some of them arranged occasionally , but I don't know if it is through the Trust
6. Trust should produce wider range of merchandise and sell it round the ground - Some merchandise has been done but maybe through different channels
7. Trust should approach Radio Humberside to suggest a fan take part in the commentary / summary team - I'm not aware about this
8. Trust put forward a viable alternative to no concessions - They did, comprehensively
PS I also recall lots of suggestions about Geoff taking a more formal role which he has

It doesn't seem to be a massive amount of things that people had high hopes for so I'm surprised if it is these things people feel so strongly disappointed about?

The AGM was held a few months back. There was an opportunity for all to speak.

The Trust publicised that Committee members were visible & available pre-match at the WG prior to home games.

 

[originallambrettaman]

So the updated m the first page of the first thread above, which was the one asking for very specific suggestions for the Trust, and an update as to what was done as far as I am aware, is;

1. Trust use an account on here to ask for suggestions for particular topics / campaigns, and they also ask any relevant questions about unsolicited suggestions made by people on this thread. - I don't think the Trust do have a formal account on here (other than the one which OLM lost the password for) Personally I do think that would be useful as it would be official voice of the Trust rather than people taking comments from individuals with positions in the Trust as being that
2. Suggestion deleted at request of person who made it
3. The Trust should consider a 'meet the Trust' social event or run a coach to away matches - Not done as that, but anyone can attend the AGM anyway I think?
4. Trust should consider setting up a youth football team - Not done but they do support an adult team I think?
5. Trust should look to arrange matches with other fan groups and/or for disabled groups - There have been some of them arranged occasionally , but I don't know if it is through the Trust
6. Trust should produce wider range of merchandise and sell it round the ground - Some merchandise has been done but maybe through different channels
7. Trust should approach Radio Humberside to suggest a fan take part in the commentary / summary team - I'm not aware about this
8. Trust put forward a viable alternative to no concessions - They did, comprehensively
PS I also recall lots of suggestions about Geoff taking a more formal role which he has

It doesn't seem to be a massive amount of things that people had high hopes for so I'm surprised if it is these things people feel so strongly disappointed about?

Just on a few of those...

Representatives of the Trust were at the William Gemmell on Anlaby Road before each home game, this was regularly promoted on social media and has also been posted on here several times (you can buy merchandise there, sign up, speak to members of the Trust board etc).

The Trust did set up a team who play occasionally, I get the impression that one hasn't been all that easy, it's hard getting a team together and the opposition regularly seem to cancel matches on short notice.

I believe Greg, one of Trust directors, is going to be a regular guest on Sportstalk this season.

 

[dennisboothstash]

Just on a few of those...

Representatives of the Trust were at the William Gemmell on Anlaby Road before each home game, this was regularly promoted on social media and has also been posted on here several times (you can buy merchandise there, sign up, speak to members of the Trust board etc).

The Trust did set up a team who play occasionally, I get the impression that one hasn't been all that easy, it's hard getting a team together and the opposition regularly seem to cancel matches on short notice.

I believe Greg, one of Trust directors, is going to be a regular guest on Sportstalk this season.

Thanks for that

I forgot about Gemmel (mainly because I went in there anyway so they were just there!)

Quite a chunk of the things people suggested were actually done then

 

[dennisboothstash]

The AGM was held a few months back. There was an opportunity for all to speak.

The Trust publicised that Committee members were visible & available pre-match at the WG prior to home games.

I didn't like them being available in William Gemmel...I drank in there with Askew anyway and the bar was busy enough without Happy always popping along to have a chat with them

 

[originallambrettaman]

Quite a chunk of the things people suggested were actually done then

Nope, according to Happy, they've done absolutely **** all.

 

[DMD]

So the updated m the first page of the first thread above, which was the one asking for very specific suggestions for the Trust, and an update as to what was done as far as I am aware, is;

1. Trust use an account on here to ask for suggestions for particular topics / campaigns, and they also ask any relevant questions about unsolicited suggestions made by people on this thread. - I don't think the Trust do have a formal account on here (other than the one which OLM lost the password for) Personally I do think that would be useful as it would be official voice of the Trust rather than people taking comments from individuals with positions in the Trust as being that
2. Suggestion deleted at request of person who made it
3. The Trust should consider a 'meet the Trust' social event or run a coach to away matches - Not done as that, but anyone can attend the AGM anyway I think?
4. Trust should consider setting up a youth football team - Not done but they do support an adult team I think?
5. Trust should look to arrange matches with other fan groups and/or for disabled groups - There have been some of them arranged occasionally , but I don't know if it is through the Trust
6. Trust should produce wider range of merchandise and sell it round the ground - Some merchandise has been done but maybe through different channels
7. Trust should approach Radio Humberside to suggest a fan take part in the commentary / summary team - I'm not aware about this
8. Trust put forward a viable alternative to no concessions - They did, comprehensively
PS I also recall lots of suggestions about Geoff taking a more formal role which he has

It doesn't seem to be a massive amount of things that people had high hopes for so I'm surprised if it is these things people feel so strongly disappointed about?

I'm trying to keep out of it, but as you asked, I still feel that attitude and communication are two areas where the trust are lacking when it comes to fan involvement.

If they have taken up ideas offered on here, it would have been a positive step if they'd acknowledged it and thanked people, instead of trying to imply they dream these things alone.

They generally seem to look threatened and become defensive towards comments.

It's not a sudden claim, it's one I've made from the off, and I've seen little if anything to show it's the wrong view.

I mean it as a constructive comment, but it is rarely taken that way.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I'm trying to keep out of it, but as you asked, I still feel that attitude and communication are two areas where the trust are lacking when it comes to fan involvement.

If they have taken up ideas offered on here, it would have been a positive step if they'd acknowledged it and thanked people, instead of trying to imply they dream these things alone.

They generally seem to look threatened and become defensive towards comments.

It's not a sudden claim, it's one I've made from the off, and I've seen little if anything to show it's the wrong view.

I mean it as a constructive comment, but it is rarely taken that way.

There's only one Trust director on this board and I've no idea what ideas he passed on to the Trust (I believe he's driving the Trust football team idea), but things like a permanent base to meet people and getting someone on Sportstalk etc were long standing plans, it wasn't something that's just come about because someone mentioned it on here.

 

[DMD]

There's only one Trust director on this board and I've no idea what ideas he passed on to the Trust (I believe he's driving the Trust football team idea), but things like a permanent base to meet people and getting someone on Sportstalk etc were long standing plans, it wasn't something that's just come about because someone mentioned it on here.

So the discussions on here were a waste of time, and nobody from the trust paid any attention, despite requests.

Each time you 'defend' the situation, you help make the points.

It's why I'm not that arsed in getting involved. I posted the links in response to someone claiming nobody offered suggestions. Clearly they did, but were ignored, even though the trust had a log in, which they said they'd use.

Most of what I'm liable to say will be on the links, and haven't changed from the get go, so to repeat them only reinforces the point, and others dig their heals in further the other way.

And all the time, the club goes to ratshit and everyone blames each other. People find other ways to fill in their Saturdays, as nobody is offering any prospect of change.

 

[originallambrettaman]

So the discussions on here were a waste of time, and nobody from the trust paid any attention, despite requests.

Each time you 'defend' the situation, you help make the points.

It's why I'm not that arsed in getting involved. I posted the links in response to someone claiming nobody offered suggestions. Clearly they did, but were ignored, even though the trust had a log in, which they said they'd use.

Most of what I'm liable to say will be on the links, and haven't changed from the get go, so to repeat them only reinforces the point, and others dig their heals in further the other way.

And all the time, the club goes to ratshit and everyone blames each other. People find other ways to fill in their Saturdays, as nobody is offering any prospect of change.

The Trust account was me, but I'm not involved any more, so it's up to them if they feel it's worth them setting up something new.

I didn't say the discussions on here were a waste of time, I'm not a director of the Trust, I don't know what they read or didn't read.

 

[DMD]

The Trust account was me, but I'm not involved any more, so it's up to them if they feel it's worth them setting up something new.

I didn't say the discussions on here were a waste of time, I'm not a director of the Trust, I don't know what they read or didn't read.

You're generally selective on which hat you're wearing. It doesn't help much. I thought I recalled Bielbs and PLT using that account, or at least saying they would but I could be wrong. It's academic as the option is there if there's a desire.

Links were posted showing a few of the many threads on here were things were discussed. You answered on it, confirming you thought none were actioned by the trust as a result of fans views.

The fact you highlight that the trust don't post on here and that the comments from fans seem to be being ignored, confirms my oft made point about communication and attitude.

 

[originallambrettaman]

You're generally selective on which hat you're wearing. It doesn't help much. I thought I recalled Bielbs and PLT using that account, or at least saying they would but I could be wrong.

Links were posted showing a few of the many threads on here were things were discussed. You answered on it, confirming you thought none were actioned by the trust as a result of fans views.

The fact you highlight that the trust don't post on here and that the comments from fans seem to be being ignored, confirms my oft made point about communication and attitude.

I only have one hat.

I haven't been involved in the running of the Trust for well over a year now.

I only remember Al using that account, but I could be wrong, it was a long time ago.

 

[DMD]

I only have one hat.

I haven't been involved in the running of the Trust for over a year now.

I only remember Al using that account, but I could be wrong, it was a long time ago.

It's groundhog day on here.

And all the time, the club turns to ratshit, and people find other things to do on a matchday.

 

[dennisboothstash]

The Trust account was me, but I'm not involved any more, so it's up to them if they feel it's worth them setting up something new.

I didn't say the discussions on here were a waste of time, I'm not a director of the Trust, I don't know what they read or didn't read.

I do think it would be good if the Trust used a 'formal' account on here
They could comment on suggestions, pass out Trust info etc whilst still choosing to remain silent on some issues if they think that's best
It's certainly a very active forum so it couldn't do any harm in informing the Trusts views I wouldn't think (although I imagine the Trust has more members than post actively on here so there's no suggestion we could steer them either)

Just my view

 

[Qatartiger Cambridgetiger]

no, I don't want to give Ehab my money, YOU DO?
YOU LAUGH AT ME FOR NOT PAYING HIM FOR THE PRIVILEDGE OF SINGING AT 19:04?
CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG, BUT DONT YOU MAKE HIM LAUGH ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK?

What ya shouting for?

 

[Fez]

First part correct. His "unfortunate" use of casual racism. A quick apology even light hearted and it would have all been forgotten.

As it happened he denied the existence of casual racism then went on a rabid defence of those types of generalisations.

What I found a little ironic is he wouldn't apologise nor admit he was wrong. Hence [HASHTAG]#AskPLT[/HASHTAG].

Do I think he's a racist? No. Do I think he's a pompous twat who thinks he's above criticism and answers to no one and who is always right? Are the similarities between him and Ehab obvious personalities wise? Yes.

Sorry didn't mean it like that. That was beneath him to say.

I don't hate him btw. I despise him.

Second part. Erm what? It's what I wrote but reflects what you think I meant?

Oh wait. You mean it's a load of bollocks and I never said that but you're presenting it as the truth to try and discredit me on a forum?

Lol ok.

To the other posters, I was hoping the Trust would fulfill its pledges. To try and engage all rather than the angry minority. It still feels like a rebranded CTWD.

No way was I going to join when they named changed with Gretton in charge.

I know there's good folks involved. For a while Geoff was visible and doing good stuff.

It's all gone too quiet. Even the club communicates more often.

I did not mention casual racism as I don't believe it was; it was a poorly thought through remark and generalisation, nothing more. You made a big thing of it and used it to further your anti-Trust nonsense. I do agree that PLT would have been wise to apologise should anyone be offended by a remark that he had made with no racist intent - he may of done, I lost interest.

As for you denying what you wrote and what you meant, what utter bollocks. It was plainly written and no one, not just me, misconstrued it. I think it was quite some time before you made a post making your position on concessions clear, which I and others accepted as we kind of realise you are not that kind of guy, you simply posted in haste to be controversial and seem to be suuportive of the Allams - it's what you do.

I really couldn't care less about trying to discredit you on a forum, Happy; why should I, you do a remarkably good job all on your own.

 

[Fez]

I think it's been more than adequately posted on here that OLM does not represent the Trust on here, regardless of what hat he is wearing

We shouldn't lose sight of the fact that just as with SCB, Chazz, Happy Tiger, Dennis, Askew, Castro and my good self (apologies to those not mentioned - you know who you are), he is just one of the ****s who post on here.

 

[Barchullona]

I think it's been more than adequately posted on here that OLM does not represent the Trust on here, regardless of what hat he is wearing

We shouldn't lose sight of the fact that just as with SCB, Chazz, Happy Tiger, Dennis, Askew and my good self (apologies to those not mentioned - you know who you are), he is just one of the ****s who post on here.

I can't begin to describe the deep sense of hurt I feel at not being included on your list of first division ****s and being relegated to the second division of those who merely know who they are.

 

[Fez]

I can't begin to describe the deep sense of hurt I feel at not being included on your list of first division ****s and being relegated to the second division of those who merely know who they are.

You're right, a huge oversight, now put right! A bold retro correction.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

I can't begin to describe the deep sense of hurt I feel at not being included on your list of first division ****s and being relegated to the second division of those who merely know who they are.

Looks like I'm top of the league. It's all down to hard work you lower league ****.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

You're right, a huge oversight, now put right! A bold retro correction.

You can't just promote him because he thinks he deserves to be in the top tier. He gets more Leeds like everyday.