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The Liebherr Legacy said:
We're not creating anywhere near as much as we were this time last year imo.

Always skeptical of these stats too, who and what defines a 'chance'?
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Its a nonsense to say we're 5th in chances created. We haven't looked remotely threatening in 80% of our football. I havent seen many games where I have thought we were unlucky. The statisticians can say what they like but all chances are not equal.
 
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fran-MLs little camera said:
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15668234.Saints_star_banned_from_driving/?ref=rss

Dusan fined and banned after failing to say who was driving his Porsche when it was involved in an accident. Don't like stuff like this....not owning up to stuff, but hoping to avoid prosecution by remaining silent. At one time you could actually escape all penalties by refusing to say who was driving....it's a good thing that you can't hide completely these days.
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Managed to get a bit more info.
Apparently, his car tried to go past two other cars but ended up upside down on the side of the road.




Definitely Dusan driving.

May have done better if he was overtaking on the right, not left.
 
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SaintinNZ said:
Its a nonsense to say we're 5th in chances created. We haven't looked remotely threatening in 80% of our football. I havent seen many games where I have thought we were unlucky. The statisticians can say what they like but all chances are not equal.
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https://understat.com/league/EPL

The en Vogue expected goals stats for the season thus far.
This is supposed to rate the quality of the chances created

We’re 5 goals down on goals for
but we’ve actually conceded 2 fewer than expected.

We’re 8th overall in the league for expected goals, so slightly down on 5th overall for chances created.

I think these stats show we’re an average team for this league.
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
MLT said much the same thing.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/11/20/matt-le-tissier-hits-out-at-jose-fonte/
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Much as my reaction is to attack Fonte it would pay to listen. I reckon there is still a hangover from selling our best every season and not replacing with exciting enough players. Those who were in the squad 3 seasons ago are bound to feel like we lack ambition. Logically they will all view a move elsewhere a step up even if it's to west ham and relegation. VVD and Bertrand will be next.

Problem is, that's not the end of our issues at the club imo. They used to be playing in the shop window now they're not playing at all.
 
Whiteley Saint said:
Yeah because West Ham is the next step......it's nothing to do with money.
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OK it has all gone wrong for West Ham atm, but with their set up (stadium and fan base mainly) they should be aiming higher than where they are and (if run correctly) should have a better chance of regularly challenging the top 6 than us. The big thing there is "run correctly" as their current owners appear pretty clueless.

When he left it was a sideways move, but it appeared he had burnt his bridges here and was being offered better financial terms than we were willing to offer so makes perfect sense to me why he would go.
 
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Saintmagic said:
OK it has all gone wrong for West Ham atm, but with their set up (stadium and fan base mainly) they should be aiming higher than where they are and (if run correctly) should have a better chance of regularly challenging the top 6 than us. The big thing there is "run correctly" as their current owners appear pretty clueless.

When he left it was a sideways move, but it appeared he had burnt his bridges here and was being offered better financial terms than we were willing to offer so makes perfect sense to me why he would go.
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Don't think anyone is saying it doesn't make sense. He was coming to the end of his career and would get more money, but at the present time with only a couple of years left in his career this was not a 'step up' for him. If West Ham do get there at sometime it won't be whilst he is playing.
 
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