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SAINTOSPREY said:
Mr Dean had a bit of a mare today, that penalty fiasco highlights the faults in VAR, a three minute inquest on what was an obvious decision (in my opinion), our penalty, if it had a VAR check at all, was brief and missed the obvious. You do have to have sympathy for the officials when a bunch of players are simulating and protesting, completely out of order, trying win and influence decisions.
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Can't really blame Mike Dean. It was just unfortunate that the ball didn't go out of play. And our penalty shout wasn't nearly as obvious as the one City got today. Ours didn't meet the standard of clear and obvious that is needed to overturn the onfield decision.
 
tomw24 said:
Can't really blame Mike Dean. It was just unfortunate that the ball didn't go out of play. And our penalty shout wasn't nearly as obvious as the one City got today. Ours didn't meet the standard of clear and obvious that is needed to overturn the onfield decision.
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It's still all down to opinion and obviously I disagree about our penalty not being obvious, in hindsite it was, but it's history now so I dismiss it and move on to the next fiasco, Mr Coote I believe did the Newcastle defeat but wasn't in any way responsible for us losing that one!
 
SAINTOSPREY said:
Mr Dean had a bit of a mare today, that penalty fiasco highlights the faults in VAR, a three minute inquest on what was an obvious decision (in my opinion), our penalty, if it had a VAR check at all, was brief and missed the obvious. You do have to have sympathy for the officials when a bunch of players are simulating and protesting, completely out of order, trying win and influence decisions.
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To be fair to Kevin Friend, he wasn’t Mike Dean.
 
RSS said:
I don't know if this was picked up by anyone else but that looks to me like PEH intends on signing that new contract.

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Doubt it. Lallana wanted to finish his career here, remember?
 
tomw24 said:
Can't really blame Mike Dean. It was just unfortunate that the ball didn't go out of play. And our penalty shout wasn't nearly as obvious as the one City got today. Ours didn't meet the standard of clear and obvious that is needed to overturn the onfield decision.
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That is a weakness of the VAR system which many people on here were saying even before it was brought in.
If our shout for a penalty on Saturday was seen as valid, what on earth would the officials have done? The next stop in play was after Liverpool had put the ball in our net, would they (the officials ) have disallowed their goal and then awarded us a penalty?

Of course, all the above is hypothetical. Our appeal would never be given or a Liverpool goal disallowed but let's just pretend.
 
It's Only A Game said:
That is a weakness of the VAR system which many people on here were saying even before it was brought in.
If our shout for a penalty on Saturday was seen as valid, what on earth would the officials have done? The next stop in play was after Liverpool had put the ball in our net, would they (the officials ) have disallowed their goal and then awarded us a penalty?

Of course, all the above is hypothetical. Our appeal would never be given or a Liverpool goal disallowed but let's just pretend.
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They're never going to rule out a home goal to give a penalty to the opposition at Anfield or Old Trafford.
 
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Libby said:
They're never going to rule out a home goal to give a penalty to the opposition at Anfield or Old Trafford.
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Dermot says no penalty, but Longs effort was. Didn't mention the back pass either.
I was confused about what he said about Referees can't stop a game until the ball goes out of play, yet it happens a lot when it suits them?
 
SAINTOSPREY said:
Dermot says no penalty, but Longs effort was. Didn't mention the back pass either.
I was confused about what he said about Referees can't stop a game until the ball goes out of play, yet it happens a lot when it suits them?
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Yeah that was always going to be an issue as many of us pointed out beforehand. I've said a couple of times this season that if I was a manager then I'd tell players that if there's an appeal then keep the ball in play as long as possible as they won't look at it properly.

As for Dermot he's an absolute waste of space and stealing a living. He's also completely wrong about this because as you mentioned, it happens quite regularly.
 
Dark Lord SFC said:
Unless PEH signs a new contract this summer he will, have to be sold before entering his final year but if the clubs want to pay the suggested £35m then I wouldn’t be too depressed tbh
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Can probably halve that in the summer if it is common knowledge that he isn’t signing a new deal. How much did Eriksen go for in the end with 6 months left?
 
I think it would benefit him to stay. Sure, he could command more money with the contract winding down as it is, but sign another deal, put in a shift and he'll have a choice of top clubs to go. As it stands right now, he is not good enough to get a top four club, but they may well buy him on the cheap, just because they can. Don't be a drinkwater, be a drinkchampagne........
 
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----HistoryRepeating---- said:
I think it would benefit him to stay. Sure, he could command more money with the contract winding down as it is, but sign another deal, put in a shift and he'll have a choice of top clubs to go. As it stands right now, he is not good enough to get a top four club, but they may well buy him on the cheap, just because they can. Don't be a drinkwater, be a drinkchampagne........
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Yep agree with this, he still has a little bit in his game to improve to really hit the top level. Hes still young enough that he can do that with us. I guess it depends if he'd rather be a big player for us, or a squad player for a big side
 
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Osvaldorama said:
Yep agree with this, he still has a little bit in his game to improve to really hit the top level. Hes still young enough that he can do that with us. I guess it depends if he'd rather be a big player for us, or a squad player for a big side
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It will depend on how much we offer him compared with how much any potential suitor will pay him plus any signing on fee
Definition of a big club is they pay more than we do and thats quite a few
 
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