S.A.F.C. - the future

[Southern A]

with all due respect to Bob (and indeed any ITK), this is a game of chess between multiple individuals. They're all applying misdirection and strategy to get the outcome they want.

Anybody hearing anything will be hearing ONE perspective from ONE or at most only a few of the players in that game. And that perspective may even be fabricated if that person is trying to spread disinformation, especially if they know the person they're speaking to has history of posting that news on forums.

Like I say - no disrespect intended. I love the fact the guys post what they hear in good conscience. I'm just saying that nobody should be pretending to know the entire picture here. and even "facts" that people think they know may only be facts in the minds of their sources.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Well that's been an interesting read.

A random statement from a crypto company with no money, a journalist picks up on it and repeats it without any basic fact checking and all hell lets loose.

KLD then has to release a statement, which all be it carefully worded is also very professionally put together. It dismisses the crypto bid with the comment "no employee of the club has had dialogue with them".

It also clearly points out that KLD and Satori are completely aligned in their vision for the club and cleverly confirms (to me anyway) that the relationship between them and SD and CM has completely broken down and that KLD and Satori will not conduct their business in public.

What's laughable are the people on social media who mock Tom White, for being fooled ...

... then become completely hysterical about the same story as if it's real.

It would be sad if it wasn't so funny.

 

[Jonny A]

There is alot more to it than just that and KLD found he has had to stump more than he should left, right and centre because they wouldn't/couldn't. This held up significant investment that was going to happen. There is alot of anger behind the scenes and now we are seeing games played out in the open true to CM and SD's styles.

Could the Tom White tweet be part of the game but on the KLD side, leak that the clowns are talking to the crypto kids knowing how the fans will react

 

[Southern A]

Could the Tom White tweet be part of the game but on the KLD side, leak that the clowns are talking to the crypto kids knowing how the fans will react

This is a brilliant point.

Especially if he's calling their bluff in regards to trying to find buyers willing to pay a price that's too high

 

[Jonny A]

This is a brilliant point.

Especially if he's calling their bluff in regards to trying to find buyers willing to pay a price that's too high

Does make more sense, he will know what's going on with working with Jones but he is far enough away from KLD for it to be denied he knew it was bollox

 

[TopCat.]

But if they did fall out moving forward that would be a problem.

That could easily happen in any business.

Of course it could - look at what happened at Liverpool - but you can't base your current business model on whatifs like that

 

[Oldsandy]

Well that's been an interesting read.

A random statement from a crypto company with no money, a journalist picks up on it and repeats it without any basic fact checking and all hell lets loose.

KLD then has to release a statement, which all be it carefully worded is also very professionally put together. It dismisses the crypto bid with the comment "no employee of the club has had dialogue with them".

It also clearly points out that KLD and Satori are completely aligned in their vision for the club and cleverly confirms (to me anyway) that the relationship between them and SD and CM has completely broken down and that KLD and Satori will not conduct their business in public.

Just when we get a good panic going along comes someone like chunksafc with panic killing logic! I need a bit of panic to get me going in the morning - that’s why I’m on here!

 

[Sunderpitt]

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Dumb and Dumber?

 

[rowley]

Could the Tom White tweet be part of the game but on the KLD side, leak that the clowns are talking to the crypto kids knowing how the fans will react

That is seriously Machiavellian!

 

[smithy in nl]

Totally trust kld me like kid knows what he’s doing.

 

[Jonny A]

That is seriously Machiavellian!

Had to google that

 

[Southern A]

Could the Tom White tweet be part of the game but on the KLD side, leak that the clowns are talking to the crypto kids knowing how the fans will react

Or Dave Jones himself. He may have heard it was happening and wanted to destroy it before it started

 

[Jonny A]

Or Dave Jones himself. He may have heard it was happening and wanted to destroy it before it started

Exactly, no way would Tom White release that without checking with Jones first so does make more sense that either Jones/KLD was involved with him putting that out on twitter

 

[Smug in Boots]

This is pure panic from Methven imo.

KLD is being really cool and is under no pressure.

Donald has been talking about Sunderland in the past tense.

If KLD spends and those two fail to match it their shares can be diimished. (So I believe.)

In the meantime things can just carry on as normal ...

... perhaps we need to remember that's actually quite good.

 

[E.T. Fairfax]

Could the Tom White tweet be part of the game but on the KLD side, leak that the clowns are talking to the crypto kids knowing how the fans will react

KLD was pretty sharpish in making a statement like.

 

[Jonny A]

This is pure panic from Methven imo.

KLD is being really cool and is under no pressure.

Donald has been talking about Sunderland in the past tense.

If KLD spends and those two fail to match it their shares can be diimished. (So I believe.)

In the meantime things can just carry on as normal ...

... perhaps we need to remember that's actually quite good.

Agree with all of this apart from I dont think the shares can be watered down, I thought they had to agree a budget for the season which is one of the frustrations KLD had as they wouldn't put anything else in above that amount hence when we needed a new pitch it was KLD who funded it as the others said no it wasn't in the budget for that year

 

[Oldsandy]

Agree with all of this. Sunderland fans don't half know how to suck the positivity out of the room

Anything positive - dismissed as bull **** and fanciful, regardless of the source
Anything negative - latched onto as Gospel, regardless of how fanciful it might be, or how unsubstantiated it is

Yeah. It comes with experience of the club. How many times have I viewed the coming season as a bright new dawn, only for the same-old-same-old spanner to land. The Greeks used to believe that the gods would watch what people were up to, setting them tasks and throwing obstacles in their way - well I can imagine them having a right royal chuckle over us as they decide what new calamities to inflict upon us! Sorry for the negativeness lads and lasses; i think it must be the weather or my arthritic joints. Fock it - I think I’ll get myself into Newcastle (sorry again) and have a look around the stores.

 

[John Wick]

Some uninformed people on here mind.
Also guessing at the figures and club costs

I said it was all bullshit yesterday, and continue to do so today.

 

[John Wick]

Is this ****e still a topic? It was a comedy sketch yesterday and boring today. It is and was an absolute non starter.(Fans ****e) Supporters driving themselves mad with "what ifs".

 

[Oldsandy]

That is seriously Machiavellian!

And I thought “Smileys People” was complicated!