S.A.F.C. - the future

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The cabbage over the road, hit the nail on the head. Claiming it to be an opportunity for SD to heal some wounds. He wrote

Still firmly believe that he isn’t the driver on this. He doesn’t have the intelligence for it - and certainly doesn’t have the money or will to spend it. I think this has been an effort from him to rehabilitate his reputation with safc fans. Utterly misjudged of course, but when has Donald ever shown any self-awareness to go alongside his massive ego?
All Donald is bothered about is making money, he sees keeping a portion of his shares as his opinion to make money, if the new owners are successful then he either keeps his remaining shares which are worth more or he sells and makes a profit, I’m sure that’s what has taking the time to work all that out!
 
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All Donald is bothered about is making money, he sees keeping a portion of his shares as his opinion to make money, if the new owners are successful then he either keeps his remaining shares which are worth more or he sells and makes a profit, I’m sure that’s what has taking the time to work all that out!

Donald may not be in an enviable position. It's likely that the price he's receiving now for the shares he's willing to sell has been adjusted to reflect our current abysmal on pitch status. If control passes in the way we think it has, he's not going to be in a position to influence progress,and is therefore forced to wait our future upturn before being able to cash in,however long that takes,although there may be a time limit on it. It's also likely that he will have agreed to a process of future valuation of his remaining holding,unless a price has been agreed now,and that he will have to sell to a specified buyer,not just anyone he thinks will give him the cash.
So,he's probably not getting as much as he wants now and is going to have to wait for the rest.
 
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Just having a look through Bobs post from last night on a few threads over there...few things of note...

  • CM is currently in Uruguay sorting things out with JS,
  • Some other poster popped up and he reckons they are sorting out which club to buy over there which Bob didnt refute
  • Some of our players contracts will be cancelled to make way for players to get us promoted
  • Sanderson will be sent back from his loan spell
  • Cooky was offered a new deal which he turned down, hence they got rid of him
Some interesting points there, I always look out for Bobs post however zany they come across there is always some truth somewhere in them
Possibly correct about Cooky, would probably be on a canny wedge due to the length of time he has been at the club. I remember when the dildo twins took over at West Ham they were shocked that the Chief car park attendant was on 90k a year, not saying Cooky was getting that of course but his wages may have higher than the norm for a 3rd division kit man.
 
I’ve been extremely busy lately so haven’t had a proper look on here for a few days but...

I think Donald clearly had an input in Johnson’s arrival as he remains the majority shareholder but i don’t think it’s a lot, the strings are for me clearly being pulled by the incoming majority shareholders.. they obviously have the structures,plans and finance to drive this.I’m assuming the only reason their takeover hasn’t been announced is due to the EFL process which we all know can take a while.

For me it’s ludicrous to think Donald is doing this
What has he done in the last 18 months to justify the sudden interest,change of direction and god forbid a plan with some finance?
All he has done is stripped back the whole club to it bare sorry state.
There is no way he would strip everything he could then employ a DOF,payoff a poor appointment of a manager and employ a decent championship standard manager.. he can’t afford it for a start.
There in my humble opinion is big changes in progress and I’m happy to watch it all develop..regardless of recent form I’m very optimistic about our direction and future now.
As I say this is just my opinion.
 
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He's speaks really well and puts a lot into perspective. Sounds like it's just a matter of time. As he said, in some respects, regardless who has made the decision to implement the new structure, its a good decision. Although I'm not sure he realised he was on camera, very fidgety!
 
I'm not sure about that.
Iirc it was mentioned that anything that came within PAYE for tax was included in cap. If you are paying up a contract then its taxable
Not certain mind

I would say though, if you have players on your books and you want rid to free up space..an agreement could be reached where the contract can be mutually terminated and a payment be made (to the value of their lost wages) in some form of non-taxable expense or non-taxable limit of severence pay
 
I would say though, if you have players on your books and you want rid to free up space..an agreement could be reached where the contract can be mutually terminated and a payment be made (to the value of their lost wages) in some form of non-taxable expense or non-taxable limit of severence pay
Possibly I'm no expert but isn't there a 30k limit on non taxable redundancy?
Anyway that's why you employ clever legal and accountancy types :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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That's a long way from what I'm saying tbh mate.

Even the happiest clapper, which I'm not, has doubts and questions.. It's just that relentlessly making up 'facts' to fit a negative agenda isn't being cautious imo. People continually insisting they're right and that nothing will change, in the face of lots of things changing, isn't having doubts. The way Dreyfus is being portrayed as a gullible young kid, having his pants pulled down, is very poor imo.

Of course we all have doubts and questions about him but some people have already made the minds up before he's even arrived. At some point we all have to grit our teeth and risk having our fingers burned again. Otherwise this pessimism and lethargy, around the club, will persist imo.

I don't expect people to drop their guard but I'd rather not be told I'm a gullible fool being played, I'd prefer to make my own mind up. I haven't once praised Johnson, Speakman, Sartori, Dreyfus but neither have I condemned them ....

... I prefer to make up my own mind than be told what to think by people who already have.

Good post mate
 
Wonder which players they have in mind for ripping up their contracts?

Danny Graham has to be one

I mean, this might be harsh, but it may be a case of needs must. If we need space in the salary cap and there are no takers in January, there could be any number of them getting released, if the new owner is willing to pay them off.

But I'd suggest Graham, Grigg, McLaughlin, Flanagan, Matthews and Dobson are all vulnerable. It's telling that LJ wants to look at Patterson tonight.

One thing to bear in mind is that we have switched from three centre backs to two. And when you have a limited squad size, you need to get the balance right. So whilst we have had a shortage of CBs due to injury, I can see perhaps a defender being sacrificed for a midfielder.

You'd like to think Flanagan and Dobson would both have interested parties in January on a free or nominal fee.
 
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According to transfermarkt - the following players' deals expire in the summer. I know this might not be fully accurate because I think Feeney should be on this list.

Based on what I've seen so far - the only ones I'd keep beyond summer 2021, whether we get promoted or not, are the ones in bold. I think if we get promoted each of the bolded ones will be useful squad options. If we don't get promoted they'll be more likely to play.

The ones not in bold should, in my opinion, not be part of our plans after summer '21, in this league or any. May be harsh on some, but they're either crap or have had long enough to make it work here, and it hasn't. I'd be willing to let go of most of them in January as well.

  • Leadbitter
  • McGeady
  • Power
  • Graham
  • Connor Mc
  • Maguire
  • Matthews
  • Willis
  • Burge
  • McFadzean
  • Hume
  • Benji
  • Diamond