S.A.F.C. - the future

[Guy Incognito]

You are so so right Janey! Football isn't what it used to be (for loads of reasons) and I'm not liking some of the directions it's going in. BUT Sunderland AFC will always be a huge part of me. My kids will not escape this inherent passion either. I think I'd be neglecting my fatherly responsibilities if I 'let them off' with it. I pray they'll thank me for it one day.

My family ties to this club go back 150 years, my great grandad used to follow us at the old Newcastle Road ground. All my family are red and white, it's as much a part of my identity as my name and what schools and University I went to. I'm 47 and no matter how much disappointment I've suffered over the years or how disillusioned I get, I'll still end up coming back and backing us to the hilt. I was at Wembley twice last year, I was in the North Stand when Jeff Witley missed in the penalty shoot out against Crystal Palace, endured Mich Buxton and Terry Butchers mismanagement, but I was also there when Steven Caldwell scored the header against Wolves to get us promoted under Mccarthy, the 100 point season under Reid, Kean getting us promoted after the 15 point season with Carlos Edwards wonder goal against Burnley. We'll be back, even if it's hard at times, because it's what we do.

 

[Dorset]

In fairness to SD/CM, they always said the plan was to stabilise the club, get promoted then seek investors who could finance a return to the PL.

They obviously failed in the second objective, I would suggest they didn’t totally fail in the first objective although slashing all costs to the bone is not sustainable. But it would seem they successfully managed the final one.

Were they any good at running a football club? No. But let’s not pretend it was already well run when they turned up. Big picture - they managed to stop the club being a candidate for administration and found wealthy new owners. Overall, that counts as a success in my view.

Can't argue about any of that. If they hadn't got the finances under control, we would be right in the clarts by now, so credit where credit is due.

 

[Stranded in Lugano]

. r Tonna is a great bloke and very humble despite his wealth, you'd enjoy his company.

He asked us to go to work for him in Lugano but the flight situation, to the UK, put us off. What's it like there, where he lives is beautiful.

It’s a really nice part of the world. The lake is stunning but it’s the surrounding mountains that I love most.
As you say it’s not the easiest to get back to the UK depending on where you want to go. An hour to Milan then direct flights to Manchester and London. Easier to get back for away games than home games (when we are allowed in). Also managed to find the one other SAFC supporter in Lugano.

Would be a great location for the club for a pre-season. Great facilities and climate and mixture of opposition to play.

 

[Ozzymac]

Just seen Johnson’s/The rat’s great insight on it. Desperate for it to fail.

Biggest plonker on there tbh

 

[Danny Foctor]

The problem with social media is it gives everyone a voice.

Ain’t that the truth.

 

[SAFC Wilks]

Any of the National papers ran anything on our impending takeover over the weekend, or are they hoping it's not true and we just go away?

More the latter, we have to play it down for the sake of the mags’ mental health.

 

[Robref62]

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Well that's done it, what's the point of going on, Covid take me now

People on RTG arguing that it's not really a takeover, the Chronicle saying it's not the right kind of takeover and the Echo quoting a list of doom mongers who were straight onto the internet casting doubts about every possible aspect of the deal.

"Here’s the best of the social media reaction," They proudly boast.

@parkersafc tweeted: “Have been openly vocal about my doubts about a takeover being close. If this comes off I'll happily hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. Not getting excited yet though. I made that mistake with FPP #safc”

@SpeakSAFC tweeted: “Thoughts? Donald not being the majority shareholder could be huge, but him still owning 15% of his shares and Methven 5% isn’t ideal #SAFC”

@LBarks72 tweeted: “It appears more of an investment than a takeover."

@MorganLowrie tweeted: “An inexperienced 22 year old with $2 billion pound burning a hole in his back pocket in charge of a business with multimillion £ commitments, with next to no income, in an uncertain environment, with Donald & Methven still involved. What could possibly go wrong?”

Over on our SAFC WhatsApp group, one fan simply said: “Heard it all before”

And another added: “I’d question Sartori’s motivation to buy the club, his involvement over the last 2 years has been minimal, what will change now! With Donald still being on board it sounds like it’s more like rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic rather than a takeover!”

If Dreyfus was told the Sunderland supporters were fanatical, loyal and enthusiastic I really hope they don't read any of this shyte ...

... I bet there's more optimism and humour in the obituary pages

Let's face it, if we done a Man City the same would be whinging that we'd done it the 'wrong way'. No pleasing some so I won't worry about them.

 

[John Wick]

More the latter, we have to play it down for the sake of the mags’ mental health.

You're right mate. Only get respect and media coverage if you're in the prem or the top end of the championship.

 

[The Professor]

My family ties to this club go back 150 years, my great grandad used to follow us at the old Newcastle Road ground. All my family are red and white, it's as much a part of my identity as my name and what schools and University I went to. I'm 47 and no matter how much disappointment I've suffered over the years or how disillusioned I get, I'll still end up coming back and backing us to the hilt. I was at Wembley twice last year, I was in the North Stand when Jeff Witley missed in the penalty shoot out against Crystal Palace, endured Mich Buxton and Terry Butchers mismanagement, but I was also there when Steven Caldwell scored the header against Wolves to get us promoted under Mccarthy, the 100 point season under Reid, Kean getting us promoted after the 15 point season with Carlos Edwards wonder goal against Burnley. We'll be back, even if it's hard at times, because it's what we do.

very good post marra

 

[Mackem49000]

I honestly don’t get the negative scepticism bordering on wanting this to fail by some supposedly fans..

what happened to us all wanting the very best for our club willing to give people a chance to do better than what we’ve had..

I know we have been hurt on many occasions plenty of false dawns but I thought we all pray and live in hope for good news and brighter times ahead..

I am happy with all the info drip fed us when available by the ITKs and I do hope for better times that’s why I still have a season ticket and I am genuinely excited to see what’s in store

 

[Nonsense Potter]

The problem with social media is it gives everyone a voice.

In theory that's the best thing about it, not the worst. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion and nobody is obliged to pay any attention to it. In practice though it generally ends up that negative people attract other negative people and they end up making a disproportionate amount of noise. One of the best things I ever did was delete all of my social media accounts. It was making me dislike people who I actually liked when we were face to face.

 

[janey]

Just seen Johnson’s/The rat’s great insight on it. Desperate for it to fail.

He’s always had a downer, for me and I’d guess for lots, we wanted him to succeed.He didn’t,,but....

 

[Jme]

Well that's done it, what's the point of going on, Covid take me now

People on RTG arguing that it's not really a takeover, the Chronicle saying it's not the right kind of takeover and the Echo quoting a list of doom mongers who were straight onto the internet casting doubts about every possible aspect of the deal.

"Here’s the best of the social media reaction," They proudly boast.

@parkersafc tweeted: “Have been openly vocal about my doubts about a takeover being close. If this comes off I'll happily hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. Not getting excited yet though. I made that mistake with FPP #safc”

@SpeakSAFC tweeted: “Thoughts? Donald not being the majority shareholder could be huge, but him still owning 15% of his shares and Methven 5% isn’t ideal #SAFC”

@LBarks72 tweeted: “It appears more of an investment than a takeover."

@MorganLowrie tweeted: “An inexperienced 22 year old with $2 billion pound burning a hole in his back pocket in charge of a business with multimillion £ commitments, with next to no income, in an uncertain environment, with Donald & Methven still involved. What could possibly go wrong?”

Over on our SAFC WhatsApp group, one fan simply said: “Heard it all before”

And another added: “I’d question Sartori’s motivation to buy the club, his involvement over the last 2 years has been minimal, what will change now! With Donald still being on board it sounds like it’s more like rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic rather than a takeover!”

If Dreyfus was told the Sunderland supporters were fanatical, loyal and enthusiastic I really hope they don't read any of this shyte ...

... I bet there's more optimism and humour in the obituary pages

I suspected for a while there are many mags on RTG ..the reaction on there just confirms it to me . Everything gets disrupted and general negativity seems co ordinated.

 

[Glencoe]

I suspected for a while there are many mags on RTG ..the reaction on there just confirms it to me . Everything gets disrupted and general negativity seems co ordinated.

Its riddled with them, I hardly visit there now

 

[Smug in Boots]

The amount of people desperately trying to prove this isn't a takeover, or won't happen, is absolutely insane.

The same people were desperate to proclaim how lucky the Mags were and that their takeover would breeze through ... 'because money talks'.

Their main 'evidence' that this is just investment is that the directors we have now will still be there. Well yes but not necessarily as directors. Dreyfus can walk in, dismiss them and appoint me and @Magnus.

Whatever the case Dreyfus is no gullible little mug who's having his pants pulled down ...

... anyone who believes that's the case is drafter than the horse puncher.

 

[SAFC CLUD]

My family ties to this club go back 150 years, my great grandad used to follow us at the old Newcastle Road ground. All my family are red and white, it's as much a part of my identity as my name and what schools and University I went to. I'm 47 and no matter how much disappointment I've suffered over the years or how disillusioned I get, I'll still end up coming back and backing us to the hilt. I was at Wembley twice last year, I was in the North Stand when Jeff Witley missed in the penalty shoot out against Crystal Palace, endured Mich Buxton and Terry Butchers mismanagement, but I was also there when Steven Caldwell scored the header against Wolves to get us promoted under Mccarthy, the 100 point season under Reid, Kean getting us promoted after the 15 point season with Carlos Edwards wonder goal against Burnley. We'll be back, even if it's hard at times, because it's what we do.

Unreal, ha way the lads man

 

[TonyG]

The amount of people desperately trying to prove this isn't a takeover, or won't happen, is absolutely insane.

The same people were desperate to proclaim how lucky the Mags were and that their takeover would breeze through ... 'because money talks'.

Their main 'evidence' that this is just investment is that the directors we have now will still be there. Well yes but not necessarily as directors. Dreyfus can walk in, dismiss them and appoint me and @Magnus.

Whatever the case Dreyfus is no gullible little mug who's having his pants pulled down ...

... anyone who believes that's the case is drafter than the horse puncher.

the guy has a degree from Harvard and that’s not withstanding the fact his family are all billionaire winners.

I’m still feeling good

 

[Left For Dead]

They're like automatons aren't they ...

... driven, determined and desperate to prove themselves.

Yep, different species.

 

[Left For Dead]

I honestly don’t get the negative scepticism bordering on wanting this to fail by some supposedly fans..

what happened to us all wanting the very best for our club willing to give people a chance to do better than what we’ve had..

I know we have been hurt on many occasions plenty of false dawns but I thought we all pray and live in hope for good news and brighter times ahead..

I am happy with all the info drip fed us when available by the ITKs and I do hope for better times that’s why I still have a season ticket and I am genuinely excited to see what’s in store

You do get some sunlan fans want us to lose together rid of parky. Even if we changed manager and brought pep in January we would be too far behind...we need to win

 

[Ozzymac]

The amount of people desperately trying to prove this isn't a takeover, or won't happen, is absolutely insane.

The same people were desperate to proclaim how lucky the Mags were and that their takeover would breeze through ... 'because money talks'.

Their main 'evidence' that this is just investment is that the directors we have now will still be there. Well yes but not necessarily as directors. Dreyfus can walk in, dismiss them and appoint me and @Magnus.

Whatever the case Dreyfus is no gullible little mug who's having his pants pulled down ...

... anyone who believes that's the case is drafter than the horse puncher.

Exactly this. They will be shareholders and that's it. No different to my shares in various companies.