S.A.F.C. - the future

[Nacho]

With the way the team are playing, with Parky in charge, that gap is only going to increase.

Couple of dodgy results, the Fleetwood game was bad luck though you're very unlikely to win with three defenders injured. Results in the league have been good hence our position.

I don't want to position myself as a Parky supporter because I don't rate him either I'm just trying to look at it as realistically as possible. You could make a case that making him add more young players into the mix and adding some quality in January might be the safest way to ensure promotion.

Bin him after that of course and give the new guys preseason.

 

[sad-eyed prophet]

If the options were to stick with Parkinson in the hope that he gets us promoted, then expect him to build something for the Championship and "suffer" him in there or take the risk of appointing someone new with a long term vision of taking us back up to the Premier League at the risk of no promotion this season , then I will go for the latter. Even then I think the risk of no promotion is more likely with Parkinson. The players aren't giving their all, he's managed to bring in a worse goalkeeper than last seasons second choice and two worse strikers than Charlie Wyke.

Yep,I feel pretty much the same way....building a solid platform for the future is more important than a short term unsustainable gain. However,I'm going to have to be very,very confident in the direction we're travelling, if I'm going to have to put up with another season in this division.

 

[Guinness Guzzler]

If the options were to stick with Parkinson in the hope that he gets us promoted, then expect him to build something for the Championship and "suffer" him in there or take the risk of appointing someone new with a long term vision of taking us back up to the Premier League at the risk of no promotion this season , then I will go for the latter. Even then I think the risk of no promotion is more likely with Parkinson. The players aren't giving their all, he's managed to bring in a worse goalkeeper than last seasons second choice and two worse strikers than Charlie Wyke.

Agreed. One of the most damning things for me is that we fell short last season, had another transfer window, and yet you could still make a case for our "best" eleven being made up wholly of players who were here last season. Clubs with genuine ambitions for automation promotion don't do that. It's absolutely pathetic that we're relying, by and large, on the same people who failed last time to suddenly click and be able to get us automatic promotion this time, even though in the last two seasons we've never occupied a top two place. It was obvious that we needed at least 3 or 4 genuine improvements, not just a load more filler.

 

[Julio]

We could go second on Saturday. Would love to know if a manager has ever been sacked while his side sit second in the league

My after Xmas predicion yesterday might not be that far off after what the lad has said this morning

 

[Smug in Boots]

Also, any official takeover news/confirmation i would say now more a few weeks away than days. (This will now give them the time/space not to rush things)

Joint decision by seller's/buyers to not cancel meeting but to postpone meeting. Keep an eye out for when its rearranged...

Well it only took minutes for Kittens (No one will be more pleased to be proved wrong.) to scan this forum, pick up on your post, totally misquote you and try to put a downer on things.
(He spends more time on 606 than some of the regulars.)

"Wheatsheaf on 606 (the most convinced of the ITK's) is now saying that confirmation is weeks, rather than days away."

This despite you never saying the announcement/confirmation would only be days away.

Some people are absolutely desperate to pour cold water on this aren't they

 

[7Mackem78]

We could go second on Saturday. Would love to know if a manager has ever been sacked while his side sit second in the league

My after Xmas predicion yesterday might not be that far off after what the lad has said this morning

Watford have probably done it.

 

[Jonny A]

We could go second on Saturday. Would love to know if a manager has ever been sacked while his side sit second in the league

My after Xmas predicion yesterday might not be that far off after what the lad has said this morning

or we could lose which given the last 3/4 games is more than likely unless we get a pen and the other side go down to 10 men. Results have been lucky so far, Parkinsons standard tactics make a sub on 70 mins with either Mcquire or Wyke off replaced by Graham/Oneil is the extent of his tactical nous with the occasional swap a CM out, this man will not get us promoted once the luck of sending offs and pens goes away

 

[West stander]

Also, any official takeover news/confirmation i would say now more a few weeks away than days. (This will now give them the time/space not to rush things)

Joint decision by seller's/buyers to not cancel meeting but to postpone meeting. Keep an eye out for when its rearranged...

If official news is weeks away then if I was to offer a small piece of advice to whoever is buying it then it would be to leak something to the press sooner rather than later about who they are. The pressue cooker has been turned up to 10 last night by the decision to cancel the meeting and the (excellent) RAWA response to that. They really need to try and take that pressure valve off by releasing a little snippet to the press to let them get on with completion as their pace.

 

[Bigmackem]

Its a perplexing riddle, wrapped in a mystery resulting in an enigma.

They seek them here they seek them there..

The damned elusive new owners.

We must have new owners soon, Jurassic has to go, his tactics and players he has brought in are disastrous.

The new manager has to have January's window to dump dross, ie several strikers and to bring a couple of pacy forwards.

I am not ITK, but I can identify what the club obviously needs. I did not buy Tuesday's game to watch, although by the sounds of it the 1st half was good and some young players showed promise. I know my ties in supporting the club are loosening, partly due to not attending matches true, but also due to being at our lowest ebb ever, due to crap players, manager and performances.

Can understand your frustration , at this moment in time due to the pandemic it’s affecting all aspects of our lives but it’s important to keep the faith that everything turns out right in our lives . When it comes to SAFC the takeover could be the catalyst for the Phoenix rising from the ashes if we are bought by the right people . SAFC and the new owners need the fans support if we are going to turn the club around , as long suffering fans we deserve it but we all need to KEEP THE FAITH. The takeover appears to be inching to a conclusion and we will be frustrated till it’s brought to a conclusion ! then hopefully we will see the upturn we all want to see in our fortunes .

 

[Smug in Boots]

Watford have probably done it.

When FPP thought they'd bought the club they had 3 options under consideration.

One was paying Burnley to release Dyche.

They were being advised, unofficially, by an ex-England manager at the time and this choice led me to believe it was Allardyce.

It was later suggested to be McClaren which is also possible, I never did find out.

 

[Pure River Slut]

It'd also not go down well if we switched managers and started slipping down the table with little chance to turn it around in January because of the wage restrictions.

Nobody's impressed with Parky or wants him to stay in the long term but we are only a point away from automatic promotion, with a game in hand. Depends who they've got lined up and how confident they are they'd be a hit from the start.

Parkinson isn’t the worst we’ve had. People saying that are justifying their toddler like reactions when he was appointed. He has shored up the defence and made us much harder to score against than under Ross and functional. His signings have been largely ****e though especially the forwards and I don’t think he has the ability to make us creative and have a cutting edge. It would be tough to chuck him right now though I do expect his game in hand to be a damp squib and for us to stay below the top. If we had the right strikers / better strikers and goals in us we’d be top of this **** league - you don’t get these goals for free and I do think the regime are mostly to blame for the strikers, but I do think Parky’s failure to create an attacking system will cost us the wins needed for automatic and that’s not good enough. Tough call and it may depend on our alternative options. If I was buying I’d be weighing up our alternatives.

 

[ab65]

It'd also not go down well if we switched managers and started slipping down the table with little chance to turn it around in January because of the wage restrictions.

Nobody's impressed with Parky or wants him to stay in the long term but we are only a point away from automatic promotion, with a game in hand. Depends who they've got lined up and how confident they are they'd be a hit from the start.

That’s true enough mate. Thing is though I can’t see new owners being prepared to give Parkinson money in January. Assuming that the summer business was Parkinson driven then he’s made a pigs ear of it.

 

[Sunderpitt]

Can understand your frustration , at this moment in time due to the pandemic it’s affecting all aspects of our lives but it’s important to keep the faith that everything turns out right in our lives . When it comes to SAFC the takeover could be the catalyst for the Phoenix rising from the ashes if we are bought by the right people . SAFC and the new owners need the fans support if we are going to turn the club around , as long suffering fans we deserve it but we all need to KEEP THE FAITH. The takeover appears to be inching to a conclusion and we will be frustrated till it’s brought to a conclusion ! then hopefully we will see the upturn we all want to see in our fortunes .

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[ab65]

I’d like to think that whoever is lined up has already been looking at what he’s got to work with and putting a plan together to hit the ground running

Yep agreed. Needs to be the case.

 

[6inarow]

When FPP thought they'd bought the club they had 3 options under consideration.

One was paying Burnley to release Dyche.

They were being advised, unofficially, by an ex-England manager at the time and this choice led me to believe it was Allardyce.

It was later suggested to be McClaren which is also possible, I never did find out.

It will be interesting to see how the FPP loan plays out in all this. Just had look on companies house and the Charge is still outstanding against Madrox and the American based FPP company is still active (although youve got to spend $20 on the Delaware companies house website for more info)

Surely new buyers would just pay it back you would think

 

[Young Ted]

It will be interesting to see how the FPP loan plays out in all this. Just had look on companies house and the Charge is still outstanding against Madrox and the American based FPP company is still active (although youve got to spend $20 on the Delaware companies house website for more info)

Surely new buyers would just pay it back you would think

Or would they consider converting it to shares and keep them on board all be it in a sleeping role ?

 

[6inarow]

Or would they consider converting it to shares and keep them on board all be it in a sleeping role ?

Think that would confuse a lot, too many cooks and all that, by all accounts the new buyer(s) is 3 people I believe, you still have Sartori and Methven then you would have the 3 from FPP, that would be a 8 person board

 

[old lads fan]

Where was that reported Smug. Not having a pop, just wondering.

It's on the club website. First item listed on latest news.

 

[Nacho]

That’s true enough mate. Thing is though I can’t see new owners being prepared to give Parkinson money in January. Assuming that the summer business was Parkinson driven then he’s made a pigs ear of it.

I'm picturing a scenario where he's kept on until the end of the season for continuity, but has zero say in January signings and is 'encouraged' to integrate the youth players he's too conservative to play. If he plays along then he gets a generous payoff and a glowing letter of recommendation.

If the new owners wanted to spend they could improve the team a fair bit by paying off contracts, I think we'd win the league easily if we did that and with all the quality back room staff I assume they'd bring in we'd be set up perfectly for next season in the championship.

I'm dubious about the calibre of manager we'd get if we sacked Parky tomorrow, but a fresh start in the championship...different story.

 

[Monkey69]

Or would they consider converting it to shares and keep them on board all be it in a sleeping role ?

Or are they the new buyers ????