I agree. But unfortunately they ruined our chance with FPP due to their own incompetence and as a result stole an opportunity from our club to become something special. It could still happen somehow with someone else but that FPP deal was a winning euro millions lottery ticket that someone flushed down the toilet.
Neither of those claims are true imo. People post what they believe is true and most people are sensible enough to believe it may not be 100% accurate. Why does anyone need to be sure everything is true, people aren't giving legal advice ... ... it's a little chat forum not Crown Court.
Hello everyone, a genuine Lincoln fan here. I have long been a lurker on RTG, and enjoy its humour and the obvious commitment you all have towards your club under some trying circumstances. I was at the game in January (it has become known as 'the Shackell game' to Lincoln fans) and the Sunderland fans were very welcoming and great to talk to. Sincere thanks for that. So why am I invading your board? The conflicting opinions on Danny Cowley are very interesting, not least for the lack of knowledge of him and his career. Apologies for the length of this post, but Danny has achieved an awful lot to date and is a serial winner. Before I begin, please ignore the very obvious attempt by 'lincolnred' to discredit the Cowleys on Page 35 of this thread. There is not a single Lincoln City supporter alive who would be so ill-informed or use such derogatory terms to describe two men who were essentially the saviours of our club. Allow me to give you some hard facts instead, then you can make up your own minds. Danny has managed in every tier between tier 9 and tier 2, always in an upwards trajectory, and been successful at most of them. He has five promotions (three as champions), five play-off campaigns, and four cup wins to his name. Far from being inexperienced, he has been a football manager for 13 years. Both the Cowleys hold degrees in physical education, returning to college after failing to make the grade in professional football. Here is his record before he arrived at Lincoln: 2007-08 Concord Rangers: Essex Senior League CHAMPIONS (at the first attempt) 2007-08 Concord Rangers: FA Vase QUARTER-FINALISTS (at the first attempt) 2008-09 Concord Rangers: Isthmian Div1N PLAY-OFF FINALISTS (at the first attempt) 2009-10 Concord Rangers: Isthmian Div1N PROMOTED via the play-offs (at the second attempt) 2012-13 Concord Rangers: Isthmian Premier PROMOTED via the play-offs (at the third attempt) 2012-13 Concord Rangers: Isthmian League Cup WINNERS 2013-14 Concord Rangers: Essex Senior Cup WINNERS 2014-15 Concord Rangers: Essex Senior Cup WINNERS 2014-15 Concord Rangers: FA Cup first round for the first time in the club's history 2015-16 Braintree Town: National League PLAY-OFF SEMI-FINALISTS (at the first attempt) Sneer at non-league football if you wish to, but that is a great record for someone also holding down a very busy job as a schoolteacher. His points-per-game return from the period 2007 to 2016 was 1.77 and his win ratio 51%. That is a magnificent return, considering that both Concord and Braintree were tiny clubs punching way above their weight. He took a tiny club from Essex up three tiers to the National League South, and almost took Braintree into the Football League in his one season there. All on tiny budgets. Now on to Lincoln in May 2016, at which point he turned professional. Far from being disappointed that we were appointing a PE teacher as manager, his arrival was greeted with plenty of optimism. He looked like a winner, and that is what we needed. Sometimes you have to forget what you used to be, and accept where you are. In short, he completely transformed Lincoln City within a few months. The club had just finished in the bottom half of the National League for the fifth season in a row, and all hope of a return to the EFL was lost. The club was moribund at best. Cowley immediately set about reconnecting the city with its football club, making huge efforts to go out into the community and persuade people to give the club another chance. He motivated and mobilised the city behind him – take a look at some of the crowd numbers below as evidence of that. He is a charismatic character, people like him, and has a very engaging manner (for example, he kneels down when talking to children). His eye for a player is good, and he made five or six signings that had an immediate impact on the pitch. His style of play has been wrongly labelled as long-ball or hoofball, usually by teams Lincoln beat or by keyboard experts who have never seen a Cowley team play. He likes to attack, but he is far more than one-dimensional. The Cowleys are heavily into sports science, very analytical, with Nicky sometimes viewed as the master tactician. He does not tolerate a lack of effort. He is unforgiving with players – there are no second chances for failure – but motivates players to run through brick walls for him. He expects very high standards both on and off the pitch. If that does not appeal to you, I am not sure what will. Please read part 2 below for his achievements at Lincoln.
Your trying to twist the figures to suit your agenda but you're not making any sense If the share are spit as you say of course its a bloody takeover. Very unlikely Shares in Sunderland will change hands this will just be a rejigging of shares in Madrox Madrox owns 100% of Sunderland SD is selling his share in Madrox Madrox will (by latest speculation) be made up of 40% KDF 40% Satori 14% SD 6% CM Twisting it for you're agenda you could say the S, SD and CM own 60% so the three still have a controlling interest. However the deal is Satori and KDF taking 80% majority holding. SD is out and wants nothing to do with it. What I'll be interested in seeing is if KLD and Satori create a new holding company together for their 80% shares in Madrox So they are acting Jointly. That would make a lot of sense and also but to bed this "is it really a takeover" stuff Also need to keep an eye on the FPP loan. Will it still be there or have they repaid it. I'm hoping its still there and FPP come on board as shareholders at a later date.
Part 2. Want to know what he achieved at Lincoln in just over three seasons? ** The first manager to win three trophies in the club's history (actually achieved in three successive seasons) and the first to win three different titles ** The first manager to take City up two tiers in the club’s history ** The first manager to win the championship of two different divisions ** The first manager to win two promotions without a relegation between ** Points per game of 1.90 (an average of 87 per season) ** Win percentage of 55% ** National League CHAMPIONS (at the first attempt) ** EFL Trophy WINNERS (at the first attempt) ** League Two play-offs (at the first attempt) ** League Two CHAMPIONS (at the second attempt) ** The first Football League title for 43 years ** The first non-league club to reach the quarter-final of the FA Cup for 103 years and the first in the modern age (i.e. since 1925) ** The first FA Cup victory in the club's history over a side from three divisions higher (Ipswich); then repeated the feat eleven days later (Brighton) ** The first FA Cup victory in the club's history over a side from four divisions higher, and away from home (Burnley) ** Club record run in the FA Cup (quarter-final) ** Club record run in the FA Trophy (semi-final) ** Club record run in the EFL Trophy (won) ** £2.5 million earned from a single cup run ** The club’s first ever visit to Wembley (won) ** Club record for Football League games unbeaten (19) ** Club record for points in a season (99) ** Club record for wins in a season (40) ** Club record for away wins in a season (19) ** Club record for points away from home in a season (44) ** Club record for goals scored away from home in a season (51) ** Joint club record for away wins in a season in the league (13) ** Club record for games played in a season (61) ** The first manager to win at least 25 games in each of three successive seasons ** Club record for the most cup ties played in a season (15) ** Joint club record for the number of goals scored in cup ties in a season (26) ** Club record for the number of FA Cup ties in a season (9) ** Club record for the number of EFL Trophy games played in a season (8) ** Club record for the number of FA Trophy ties in a season (6) ** Club record for the number of matches shown live on television in a season (12) ** Goals scored in 26 successive league games, the best scoring run for 67 years ** Average attendance up from 2,594 to 9,000, the highest since 1959-60 ** 60 successive league gates over 5,000 ** 56 successive league gates over 6,000 ** 53 successive league gates over 7,000 ** 6,300 season ticket holders ** The highest following to an away game ever (est. 30,000) ** The highest away following to an FA Cup tie in 41 years and possibly ever (8,942) ** The highest away following to a league match this century (5,556) ** The second highest attendance ever to watch a Lincoln City match (59,454) ** Top of the third tier for the first time in 36 years, at which point he left for Huddersfield. Danny Cowley's record at Lincoln (league games only): P145 W77 D40 L28 F233 A138 Pts271 Many of these numbers may be small compared with Sunderland, but for Lincoln they are remarkable. Remember, Lincoln was a club that was practically dead, and in that first season he was working with a playing budget (estimated at £500,000) that was smaller than his predecessor had in finishing 13th the season before. What also jumps out from his entire managerial record is that he achieved success at Concord, Braintree and Lincoln pretty much instantly. I have to say, I am surprised by some of the names linked with Sunderland. I appreciate that Gus Poyet is a hero on Wearside, but he has been out of English football for a long time and his record since leaving has been erratic. Furthermore, what does he know about League One, its clubs, players or tactics? He would have to learn extremely quickly, and would have a very restricted budget compared with 2013. Paul Ince is a hilarious suggestion, as is Nigel Adkins (yesterday's men). Most of the names on the bookmakers' listings should be discounted immediately, a couple of exceptions being Paul Cook and…Danny Cowley. Cynics suggest that Cook only succeeds when he has a big budget (Chesterfield, Portsmouth and Wigan, two of whom have since collapsed financially), but what about Cowley? Is he a viable appointment for Sunderland? That is a tough question, of course. Despite the way it ended, I believe Danny did a great job at Huddersfield. They had one point from six games after relegation when he arrived, and he was faced with creating survival from a vastly reduced budget and a squad of sullen and sulking Premier League failures. His 13 wins and 11 draws from 39 games kept them in the Championship against the odds – that works out at 59 points over a full season, which would have seen them finish comfortably in mid-table. That is some achievement against the backdrop he inherited. It was strange that some Huddersfield fans complained about the style of play when his main objective was to keep them up. Danny was possibly unlucky at Huddersfield, but many of us believed he had chosen the wrong club when he joined them. We were right, the chairman allegedly wanted to pick the team and there is no way Danny would stand for interference from anyone. Danny likes to run the show as a manager (with Nicky, of course), so the existence of a director of football at Sunderland could be a problem. Huddersfield proved to be a false start for him in the top two divisions, but the next club to employ him – provided it is the right club this time – will be making a cracking appointment. The noises coming from Ipswich suggest that Paul Lambert may be on his way out shortly, and the Cowleys have been linked with them for a couple of years. Interestingly, the vibes from Ipswich supporters on TWTD are far more positive than those on RTG, perhaps because Lincoln knocked Ipswich out of the FA Cup in 2017 as a non-league club. Ipswich supporters on the whole would welcome him with open arms. Ironically, his appointment by either club could prove bad news for Lincoln's own promotion push. Finally, Sunderland is one of England's great clubs and should not be in its third division. Good luck with the appointment whoever it is, and for the season
Is that the ginger kid? I used to sit row 13 and said ginger kid used to sit with his parents I think and it was painful to be near.
Well said mate, claiming a takeover is really just an investment is ludicrous at best and deliberately misleading at worst. I believe Sartori and Dreyfus will create a company of 50% shares each with which they'll buy 80% of Madrox. They can then quite easily bring new shareholders, or investment, into their company which I believe is the plan.
Aye, been posted earlier on this thread. Won't deny he's got a good non-league record but he's going to have to hit the ground running and perform better than he ever has before like. I don't see how he will but hey ho, I'm not making that decision.
You're taking every opportunity to try and down play and denigrate the takeover even questioning whether it is a takeover or not when even using your own figure by any financial definition it is not questionable You're trying to make out its not a good thing for the club as nothing will change Until we see the shareholding and listen to their plans we don't know but on the percentage being speculated I'd rather go with a glass half full that we have new wealth owners who want the best for the club and our old regime has been swept aside.
Its tiresome reading all this now when theres just page after page of bickering. RTG is the same. I'll be trying to keep out of it and react when it happens.
Thanks for posting, that's an impressive record and every manager has to start somewhere, they will be hungry to succeed and certainly not journeymen looking for the next random job. After reading that im in, I would expect the new director of football to also be heavily involved in their selection, I would imagine.
