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  1. ristac

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    Someone else has too on the newsnow clickbait sites
     
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    Tyler Adams and Sinisterra fees are part of the £140m (£45m)
     
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    We know how difficult it was to get a manager when we were at bottom of pl. Are we know thinking yet again, we've only to snap our fingers and any manager will come running. I don't see us being an attractive prospect at the moment, especially to ex managers with millions in the bank
     
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    Whilst I agree, last season we reached the playoffs and failed to get promoted. I honestly believe even Parker and Gerrard would have achieved this, it should not have been hard to reach top 6 with the talent pool Farke had.

    We’re not looking for a Bielsa who can change average to best in the league, an up and coming manager not too set in his ways, a modern coach with a modern approach

    A coach who can see Bamford is shot, who can see Piroe is not a 10, a coach who sees a game unfolding. There are at least 6 better coaches than Farke in the Championship, possibly more.

    Get in touch with a few agents and see who’d be interested
     
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    Gnonto will go next before the window for sure. best of luck Georgi am gutted. football is shyte. ups and downs why do Leeds always just get downs. still no signs of signings from the manager in the pressy but very quick in letting them go.
     
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    we are very ambitious he says but we won't go spending lots of money well that makes sense doesn't it.
     
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    everyone that bought a shirt with Rutter on should get there money back.
     
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  8. Eireleeds1

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    He could have stayed and give it one more season, he could have reviewed it in December, they all love the club until someone else offers more money, Archie was the same, when you are under contract you can say no, the club doesn't say to these players can we put a release clause fee in, the players and their agents are the ones who request them
     
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    He couldn’t as his release clause ran out at midnight last night and a pre event has now been set at Leeds. No player will ever sign again without a release clause
     
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    He could have easily said to the club, I will sign a new contract and stay one more season and have the same clause inserted at a future date, there are numerous ways he could have stayed and got his move next season or in the January window. The bottom line is the club asked him to remain, he said no, blame Orta and Rutter not the management on this occassion
     
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    It's up to the 49ers to replace him with better. That's their job same as with all the others. How's that going so far? If were not careful well have as bad a start as last season and spend the season playing catch up or worse
     
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    If the money is so tight I can’t understand why we haven’t used the loan market. Quite a few clubs, including Forest, have been promoted by doing this. Worry about them returning to their parent clubs next season, time to plan for the present.
     
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    You want the club to sign or attract better players than those we signed when we were a PL team. If the scouts and men responsible for bringing players in are worth their money, they might find us better suited players.

    When there is a release clause activated at the last minute, it is hard to plan for. Every player we are interested in seems to be attracting interest from similar clubs, we don't have a free run at them. Take the Palace lad, you said yourself you are glad we are not loaning someone who could leave in December and has to be guaranteed a place.

    We have gone back for him today with a £15m bid but palace don't want to sell him

    Rowe is refusing to play and engineering a move to Marseille

    I will bash the owners when it is deserved, we are in a mess, they need to get it sorted, it seems funds are available so I am hopeful
     
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    But Farkes said two days ago he prefers to sign players than loan them
     
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    We’ll know around mid October won’t we
     
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    FARKE SPEAKING TODAY:

    “I hate when we, as a club, are not in the driving seat and there are some clauses.


    “I don’t speak about other clauses. The situation 12 months ago was really, really difficult because just about every contract had a clause like this. I don’t want to blame anyone of the past because relegation battles can apply pressure to people. In the future, we will, just keep ourselves in the driving seat with contract.

    “If it means quality players do not come without a clause, then they don’t come. We don’t want this in the future. The more contracts running out or terminated and those coming in well make this less and less of a problem.”
     
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    I’m sure he does but you can’t if you don’t have the money.
     
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    Release clauses vary, i think people have to understand that someone like Rutter came with a big ticket price into a relegation battle - he should sack his agent if his agent doesn't negotiate a way out. The rat clauses were a similar concept... get players to come who might not otherwise by giving them a clear safety net. In the rat cases the club did a cameron/brexit where they gambled on it never happening. Which was pretty stupid. The beef with Rutter is probably that it was negotiated too low compared to the purchase price... but unless you've been in on the negotiations, the positions of both sides are all conjecture.

    I think it's really naive of Farke to 'say no' to release clauses. You're not going to keep turning down player after player or losing out all the time to people who do offer them. It's not the release clauses that are the fundamental issue. It's the terms of them. If a player is dead set on leaving they can down tools, cause unrest in the dressing room... not many clubs can afford to send them to rot in the academy. so they get sold anyway.

    The club just needs a sensible contract management strategy, which they clearly haven't had recently... so let's see what Mr 'Contracts in his sleep' works out going forward.
     
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  20. Eireleeds1

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    Would be a safer bet to just never buy anyone again and promote from the academy only
     
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