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I have no beef with Rodwell. None at all.

He was an exciting signing and I for one thought we did well to attract him.

He's injury prone and has been rubbish since he got here. Is it his fault that we offered him £60-70k a week? Should he have said "actually I don't think I'm worth that" or would anyone on here do that if they were offered stupid money for what they do?

If you were on the end of the abuse he has been would you not want to leave?

Surely the club are to blame for this idiocy not the player? Most on here thought he was a very good signing. He hasn't worked and has had loads of injuries. Not exactly hus fault.

I hope he goes. He's been an absolute disaster. But one of SAFC's making not Rodwell's

Coleman's pretty much point blank saying Rodwell could be playing if he wanted to but he doesn't. Think how long his 'injuries' have gone on for and how much it's cost us, and continues to do so.
 
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What he's paid isn't his fault. The fact that he's been injured a lot probably isn't his fault. The fact that he didn't play in a winning side for God knows how long isn't his fault. But his attitude has been called into question and his questionable attitude his fault. If you had his undoubted talent wouldn't you want to make more of yourself. When he looks back on his career he might be a multi-millionaire but he'll have to look himself in the mirror everyday and know that he didn't achieve what he could have done.
Questionable attitude maybe but maybe he just isn't very good? He disappeared after leaving Everton to a top side then signed for a possibly rising side. Looked every bit a great signing on the day he signed. The rest, as they say, is history.

I spoke to a former pro footballer who worked for SAFC a while ago about him and kone and the attitude we see and he said a lot of it is confidence based. He reckoned Kone AND Rodwell had a great attitude in training and he used to see them train regularly (he worked for The club when Grayson was there). Both great with other lads around the club and the youth. Both look a shadow of that on the pitch. He said he thought Kone was a lot down to the £18m offer we turned down and he's now in a club struggling of the Championship with the crowd on his back constantly. I don't know what or how to look at it but I guess we all make massive assumptions from seeing them for an hour and a half on a Saturday. If you were planning on trying your hardest, tried at first then 20000 people got on your back after you made one mistake how would you feel? I'm not saying the fans are to blame at all but it can't be easy being on that side even with ££££ in the bank
 
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Questionable attitude maybe but maybe he just isn't very good? He disappeared after leaving Everton to a top side then signed for a possibly rising side. Looked every bit a great signing on the day he signed. The rest, as they say, is history.

I spoke to a former pro footballer who worked for SAFC a while ago about him and kone and the attitude we see and he said a lot of it is confidence based. He reckoned Kone AND Rodwell had a great attitude in training and he used to see them train regularly (he worked for The club when Grayson was there). Both great with other lads around the club and the youth. Both look a shadow of that on the pitch. He said he thought Kone was a lot down to the £18m offer we turned down and he's now in a club struggling of the Championship with the crowd on his back constantly. I don't know what or how to look at it but I guess we all make massive assumptions from seeing them for an hour and a half on a Saturday. If you were planning on trying your hardest, tried at first then 20000 people got on your back after you made one mistake how would you feel? I'm not saying the fans are to blame at all but it can't be easy being on that side even with ££££ in the bank
I just about deciphered that. <ok>
 
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Questionable attitude maybe but maybe he just isn't very good? He disappeared after leaving Everton to a top side then signed for a possibly rising side. Looked every bit a great signing on the day he signed. The rest, as they say, is history.

I spoke to a former pro footballer who worked for SAFC a while ago about him and kone and the attitude we see and he said a lot of it is confidence based. He reckoned Kone AND Rodwell had a great attitude in training and he used to see them train regularly (he worked for The club when Grayson was there). Both great with other lads around the club and the youth. Both look a shadow of that on the pitch. He said he thought Kone was a lot down to the £18m offer we turned down and he's now in a club struggling of the Championship with the crowd on his back constantly. I don't know what or how to look at it but I guess we all make massive assumptions from seeing them for an hour and a half on a Saturday. If you were planning on trying your hardest, tried at first then 20000 people got on your back after you made one mistake how would you feel? I'm not saying the fans are to blame at all but it can't be easy being on that side even with ££££ in the bank

Coleman's seeing him in training and he says that if he wants to play then he'll find a way to play. That's real talk and no less than somebody on 70K a week should expect. Any sympathy for Rodwell at this point really sticks in my throat.
 
I understand the concept of a contract but it should read like a normal contract of employment....you don't perform and your out. This guy isn't performing and his manager has now gone public stating that. Can he play.....yes...does he want to? The answer appears to be no....sack the f*cker and take our chances at an unfair dismissal tribunal....with this lad and the Alvarez fiasco....no wonder we are financially f*cked....
 
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Coleman's seeing him in training and he says that if he wants to play then he'll find a way to play. That's real talk and no less than somebody on 70K a week should expect. Any sympathy for Rodwell at this point really sticks in my throat.
Sympathy may be a little bit of an overstatement. Not sure that's what I meant by that but I'm trying to explain my thoughts on him. I don't have sympathy for him. Christ he earns more in a month than I will in 8 years!! Just it might not be as crystal clear as everyone thinks. I'm not saying I know anything more than the next person just stuff you hear when talking to people. He may just be crap! Injuries may have taken their toll. Or he may have a ****ty attitude. One thing for certain, he just doesn't look very good!!!!
 
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Sympathy may be a little bit of an overstatement. Not sure that's what I meant by that but I'm trying to explain my thoughts on him. I don't have sympathy for him. Christ he earns more in a month than I will in 8 years!! Just it might not be as crystal clear as everyone thinks. I'm not saying I know anything more than the next person just stuff you hear when talking to people. He may just be crap! Injuries may have taken their toll. Or he may have a ****ty attitude. One thing for certain, he just doesn't look very good!!!!

I used to think something similar but I trust Coleman to speak the truth and with barely any reading between the lines needed I'm hearing that Rodwell simply isn't trying hard enough.

Even if he was getting paid peanuts that's unacceptable. He really needs to **** off from our club, if he just sits on the bench for the next year and a half I'm going to be livid with him.
 
Questionable attitude maybe but maybe he just isn't very good? He disappeared after leaving Everton to a top side then signed for a possibly rising side. Looked every bit a great signing on the day he signed. The rest, as they say, is history.

I spoke to a former pro footballer who worked for SAFC a while ago about him and kone and the attitude we see and he said a lot of it is confidence based. He reckoned Kone AND Rodwell had a great attitude in training and he used to see them train regularly (he worked for The club when Grayson was there). Both great with other lads around the club and the youth. Both look a shadow of that on the pitch. He said he thought Kone was a lot down to the £18m offer we turned down and he's now in a club struggling of the Championship with the crowd on his back constantly. I don't know what or how to look at it but I guess we all make massive assumptions from seeing them for an hour and a half on a Saturday. If you were planning on trying your hardest, tried at first then 20000 people got on your back after you made one mistake how would you feel? I'm not saying the fans are to blame at all but it can't be easy being on that side even with ££££ in the bank
I've been beating the drum about his confidence being knocked by the crowd for a while now. I've been a big supporter of him because, on a technical level, he's probably the best midfielder we have. When other people have been calling him a waste of space I've questioned whether anxiety or stress from the crowd have affected him. But now Coleman appears to be publicly questioning his attitude, and especially now that he's been offered the opportunity to leave but won't go without a payoff, I have to assume that its not nerves or confidence that's holding him back.
 
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I've been beating the drum about his confidence being knocked by the crowd for a while now. I've been a big supporter of him because, on a technical level, he's probably the best midfielder we have. When other people have been calling him a waste of space I've questioned whether anxiety or stress from the crowd have affected him. But now Coleman appears to be publicly questioning his attitude, and especially now that he's been offered the opportunity to leave but won't go without a payoff, I have to assume that its not nerves or confidence that's holding him back.
4 Managers can't be wrong.
 
Could he go down as the most expensive footballer (I use that word loosely) EVER

tbf he looks like a bargain compared to Keiron Dyer's stint at West Ham:

Played 30 games in 4 years, zero goals, on £100k a week plus £424k a season for image rights and £100k a year loyalty fees and god knows what else, ended up costing them £450k per match for doing **** all.

At the end of the day, all clubs have had parasites, Bogarde at Chelsea, Marcelino with us etc. You just need to get rid, but the problem is he clearly isn't gonna get 70k a week anywhere else and might just do a Bogarde and see his contract out; yes the fans will view him as the world's biggest ****, but if you're gonna get £5m+, then being regarded as a **** is a pretty small sacrifice.
 
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tbf he looks like a bargain compared to Keiron Dyer's stint at West Ham:

Played 30 games in 4 years, zero goals, on £100k a week plus £424k a season for image rights and £100k a year loyalty fees and god knows what else, ended up costing them £450k per match for doing **** all.

At the end of the day, all clubs have had parasites, Bogarde at Chelsea, Marcelino with us etc. You just need to get rid, but the problem is he clearly isn't gonna get 70k a week anywhere else and might just do a Bogarde and see his contract out; yes the fans will view him as the world's biggest ****, but if you're gonna get £5m+, then being regarded as a **** is a pretty small sacrifice.
Not if we have the lazy **** assassinated.
 
Just give him his wages.
Send him home he is sick.
Let him rot and wash our hands of him.
Don’t let him go.

Ohh and if we pay him off
He will get a job with another club
Do not pay him off
 
What's the most Celtic will be willing to pay him? 20k-25k tops? Sounds like the lad wants his money one way or the other. Nobody is going to pay 35k a week for him, so if we do ship him out we could well still be paying the bulk of his wages for the next year and a half. :(
Horrendous.... But that's what happens too often with us being taken for mugs
 
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What's the most Celtic will be willing to pay him? 20k-25k tops? Sounds like the lad wants his money one way or the other. Nobody is going to pay 35k a week for him, so if we do ship him out we could well still be paying the bulk of his wages for the next year and a half. :(
Horrendous.... But that's what happens too often with us being taken for mugs
Questionable attitude maybe but maybe he just isn't very good? He disappeared after leaving Everton to a top side then signed for a possibly rising side. Looked every bit a great signing on the day he signed. The rest, as they say, is history.

I spoke to a former pro footballer who worked for SAFC a while ago about him and kone and the attitude we see and he said a lot of it is confidence based. He reckoned Kone AND Rodwell had a great attitude in training and he used to see them train regularly (he worked for The club when Grayson was there). Both great with other lads around the club and the youth. Both look a shadow of that on the pitch. He said he thought Kone was a lot down to the £18m offer we turned down and he's now in a club struggling of the Championship with the crowd on his back constantly. I don't know what or how to look at it but I guess we all make massive assumptions from seeing them for an hour and a half on a Saturday. If you were planning on trying your hardest, tried at first then 20000 people got on your back after you made one mistake how would you feel? I'm not saying the fans are to blame at all but it can't be easy being on that side even with ££££ in the bank
:emoticon-0148-yes:That's right Marcus I think emotional issues predominate with all footballers and confidence is massive. But as professionals they need to rise above criticism of their play and instead focus and play for their teammates and fans. I am not saying it's easy but top players need the whole package to be successful - mental strength is crucial.