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What will Liverpool win in the 2014-15 season...?

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I dunno, the fact Balo has been sitting on the bench most of the season is yet another indicator it was not a Brod choice. He failed to get his targets and the committe prob said here have balo cos you need someone and 16 mil is not a massive risk

usually a manager would keep using his signing to jusify signing him in the first place, this has not happened with Balo

Siting on the bench for long parts of the season doesn't indicate it wasn't a Brod signing. I think we can all agree that Lovren was his signing and he's been languishing on the bench for months
 
We tried to sign Costa and Sanchez but couldn't.

So the system had to change.

The reality you can't or don't want to admit is given those circumstances LFC is a big enough club that it can easily afford to buy Lambert for next to nothing and Balotelli on an admitted gamble. This is not like Everton spunking a record fee on a donkey who has put you bottom half of the table.

We risked about £10m (possible loss on Balotelli). You risked everything.

Same can be said for the bluenoses. They will make a loss on the 28m on Lukaku but their punt on him (well less of a punt they already knew what they were getting) is still a saleable asset which is what you're suggesting with Balotelli :P
 
I don't think it is that simple even if there is some truth in what you said. We needed some cover regardless.

I think it is fair to say had Brod chosen him he would have been trying like **** to justify it, especially after the disaster Lovren and Markovic turned out to be, we resorted to a 20 year old who is not a striker instead.

Also Balo has never looked as crap as he does this season. Awful awful awful

Had we played him 28 full games he may have got 8 goals though :bandit:

I feel strongly that tobes is right here.

sorry but mr rodgers is on the COMMITTEE. he gets his veto. This is not rafa bleating on about having keane forced on him (then finally admitting that was bollox btw)

no way this is rodgers being right in the heart of the decision making that brings this clown to my club. I've said all year its a sackable offense. Rodgers said after milan friendly in the states it was utterly untrue yet it occurred.

CLEARLY someone got wind in the press of such a move somewhere then rodgers denied it and somehow it still happened. We certainly don't have the full truth of it but somewhere some how balotelli's name was floated about this committee and rather then being angrily scribbled out by anyone with half a brain they all went along and wrote a cheque for 16million plus negotiated wages with the clown

Sorry but it is the harsh truth. that guy has been and is a total waster. we have to stop blindly defending rodger sOR the committee and just say it was stupid what are we going to do to fix this and see it never happens.
 
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I feel strongly that tobes is right here.

sorry but mr rodgers is on the COMMITTEE. he gets his veto. This is not rafa bleating on about having keane forced on him (then finally admitting that was bollox btw)

no way this is rodgers being right in the heart of the decision making that brings this clown to my club. I've said all year its a sackable offense. Rodgers said after milan friendly in the states it was utterly untrue yet it occurred.

CLEARLY someone got wind in the press of such a move somewhere then rodgers denied it and somehow it still happened. We certainly don't have the full truth of it but somewhere some how balotelli's name was floated about this committee and rather then being angrily scribbled out by anyone with half a brain they all went along and wrote a cheque for 16million plus negotiated wages with the clown

Sorry but it is the harsh truth. that guy has been and is a total waster. we have to stop blindly defending rodger sOR the committee and just say it was stupid what are we going to do to fix this and see it never happens.

I don't think he's been a good buy and he's not set the fire alight and doesn't fit into your whole ethos. Having said all that, i think the last few sub appearances for you guys he's actually played quite well. He will never warm to you're all blood and guys style of game though
 
I feel strongly that tobes is right here.

sorry but mr rodgers is on the COMMITTEE. he gets his veto. This is not rafa bleating on about having keane forced on him (then finally admitting that was bollox btw)

no way this is rodgers being right in the heart of the decision making that brings this clown to my club. I've said all year its a sackable offense. Rodgers said after milan friendly in the states it was utterly untrue yet it occurred.

CLEARLY someone got wind in the press of such a move somewhere then rodgers denied it and somehow it still happened. We certainly don't have the full truth of it but somewhere some how balotelli's name was floated about this committee and rather then being angrily scribbled out by anyone with half a brain they all went along and wrote a cheque for 16million plus negotiated wages with the clown

Sorry but it is the harsh truth. that guy has been and is a total waster. we have to stop blindly defending rodger sOR the committee and just say it was stupid what are we going to do to fix this and see it never happens.

It's all very well having a veto in at the end of the transfer window with no backup for Sturridge. Using it is another matter, if he had we'd what? have no one. That may have been a better option now after the fact and nearly a season over.
had that happened Rodgers would've be skinned this season and all our woes blamed on it
[HASHTAG]#cantwin[/HASHTAG]
 
You've not been Brod's biggest supporter this season MITO so it's not really a surprise you agree with Tobes. Agreeing with him doesn't make all the speculation anything other than what it is, mine included.

Balo was a make do when we had no other options left, had he a choice? yes, balo or no one. We know how you would have reacted to no one being signed. No one knew Balo would turn out to be so bad. He was a risk but even by his standards this season has been tragic, he's been so piss poor
 
It would not have been wild optimism to think Balo might have got in or anound 10 or 12 goals this season. No one, even MITO or the all knowing Tobes predicted Balo being as bad as he has been.
 
The Brod vs Committee argument is massively flawed by Brod's own admission, Ayre claiming the same thing pretty kills it.

There is a committee but Brod is on it and he gets the final say on any signing. In other words, both parties need to agree before a player is signed but only one man as the power to prevent it happening on his own.

Therefore, there is no argument, Brod said yes to every single player we signed.
 
The Brod vs Committee argument is massively flawed by Brod's own admission, Ayre claiming the same thing pretty kills it.

There is a committee but Brod is on it and he gets the final say on any signing. In other words, both parties need to agree before a player is signed but only one man as the power to prevent it happening on his own.

Therefore, there is no argument, Brod said yes to every single player we signed.

While that is true, at the end of the window with no replacement and balo available, what do you do? Go with no one?
He scored 28 goals last season, yes a lot fo frees and some penos but I don;t think anyone was guessing he was the answer, he was probably the only option left at that time and even the biggest pessimist thought he would be better than he was


You are forgetting also that when asked about Balo, Rodgers literally laughed and said no way. Categorically denied balo was being signed.

Strange that if he already signed off on it.

[HASHTAG]#notdefendingbrod[/HASHTAG]

I am the biggest critic of his summer dealings
 
I think Brod missed out on his targets, it was late in the day, the committee said what about balo, Rodgers was not in a position to veto it with no cover for sturridge. What choice would he have and no I dont believe for one minute Balo was a target for Brod in the summer, no way was he, he was make do at the last minute.

It's great looking at all the crystal ball gazers here that somehow know he would be a disaster, everyone predicted he'd be a trouble maker, but not a **** league 2 striker.
 
While that is true, at the end of the window with no replacement and balo available, what do you do? Go with no one?
He scored 28 goals last season, yes a lot fo frees and some penos but I don;t think anyone was guessing he was the answer, he was probably the only option left at that time and even the biggest pessimist thought he would be better than he was


You are forgetting also that when asked about Balo, Rodgers literally laughed and said no way. Categorically denied balo was being signed.

Strange that if he already signed off on it.

[HASHTAG]#notdefendingbrod[/HASHTAG]

I am the biggest critic of his summer dealings

All true but Brod must have said yes because we signed him.

Not just last summer, nearly every transfer since he joined. Coutinho is the standout signing. Studge is the other. Who else? Migs and Sakho about complete the package lol

(Can't judge Ilori or Origi yet)
 
While that is true, at the end of the window with no replacement and balo available, what do you do? Go with no one?
He scored 28 goals last season, yes a lot fo frees and some penos but I don;t think anyone was guessing he was the answer, he was probably the only option left at that time and even the biggest pessimist thought he would be better than he was


You are forgetting also that when asked about Balo, Rodgers literally laughed and said no way. Categorically denied balo was being signed.

Strange that if he already signed off on it.

[HASHTAG]#notdefendingbrod[/HASHTAG]

I am the biggest critic of his summer dealings

Except Brod says a million things and contradicts himself all the time to suit whatever he thinks the press wants to hear. Last thing he wants to do is say he's desperate for Balotelli to drive up his price (devils advocate, this is conjecture like your own).

Either way it's a big mess to have spunked 16m on mad Mario and if that was Roy Hodgson you'd probably be spitting feathers.

As with no replacement, again thats all conjecture but there are other players who fit the bill better. Lacazette, Valencia, Sahko, hell even your Origi is more appropriate for the type of football Rodgers wants to play.
 
All true but Brod must have said yes because we signed him.

Not just last summer, nearly every transfer since he joined. Coutinho is the standout signing. Studge is the other. Who else? Migs and Sakho about complete the package lol

(Can't judge Ilori or Origi yet)

yes he's made bad calls but we're talking balo. Lovren was a mistake of epic proportions, there was no justification in signing him other than one good season. Markovic proves that whislt you can do well in the Portuguese league, that don't mean **** compared to the PL, as City about tehir 30 mangalla or whatever his name si, 30 worth of ****.

Balo was not a target, he was a last minute disaster. If Brod had more time you'd not be seeing Balo in a reds shirt imo
 
Except Brod says a million things and contradicts himself all the time to suit whatever he thinks the press wants to hear. Last thing he wants to do is say he's desperate for Balotelli to drive up his price (devils advocate, this is conjecture like your own).

Either way it's a big mess to have spunked 16m on mad Mario and if that was Roy Hodgson you'd probably be spitting feathers.

As with no replacement, again thats all conjecture but there are other players who fit the bill better. Lacazette, Valencia, Sahko, hell even your Origi is more appropriate for the type of football Rodgers wants to play.


You don;t know **** about Brod or Liverpool mate, that's the truth and you know it. You're only an expert while you troll this board. <doh>

"if it was Roy" this is the sort to bollocks you talk, presuming to know what i would think about a manager we sacked because he was dire years ago. There's something to be said for people who presume to know what others are thinking when they really have no clue :D

Don't you support Chelsea? Sheva? Torres? don;t talk to me about spunking money up a wall mate <laugh> They are not the only Chelsea disasters, Mutu?
 
I can admit chelsea wasted a load of money but luckily for us we have lots to waste. As for trolling your boards when have i ever done that?

Also everything I've said is 100% correct. Brod talks a load of **** to the press and neither yourself me or any other liverpool fan can say what happened about the balotelli situation.

With respect to the roy situation there are a number of fans who can see that brod is if not 100% responsible at least partly to blame. You through your rose tinted glasses are 100% refuting that and i would argue would have blamed hodgson ages ago seeing your vitriol for him
 
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yes he's made bad calls but we're talking balo. Lovren was a mistake of epic proportions, there was no justification in signing him other than one good season. Markovic proves that whislt you can do well in the Portuguese league, that don't mean **** compared to the PL, as City about tehir 30 mangalla or whatever his name si, 30 worth of ****.

Balo was not a target, he was a last minute disaster. If Brod had more time you'd not be seeing Balo in a reds shirt imo

Unless Brod had his head up his own arse (yep, we all know that much is true <laugh> ) he had a good twelve months to sort something!
 
I feel strongly that tobes is right here.

sorry but mr rodgers is on the COMMITTEE. he gets his veto. This is not rafa bleating on about having keane forced on him (then finally admitting that was bollox btw)

no way this is rodgers being right in the heart of the decision making that brings this clown to my club. I've said all year its a sackable offense. Rodgers said after milan friendly in the states it was utterly untrue yet it occurred.

CLEARLY someone got wind in the press of such a move somewhere then rodgers denied it and somehow it still happened. We certainly don't have the full truth of it but somewhere some how balotelli's name was floated about this committee and rather then being angrily scribbled out by anyone with half a brain they all went along and wrote a cheque for 16million plus negotiated wages with the clown

Sorry but it is the harsh truth. that guy has been and is a total waster. we have to stop blindly defending rodger sOR the committee and just say it was stupid what are we going to do to fix this and see it never happens.
Not really- it's an opinion.
You might be right, I'm not disagreeing with you- but stating something is a hard fact when you can't know that it is doesn't offer much room for debate.
It's possible that the first mention of Balotelli was pure media speculation and that Rodgers was telling the truth when he dismissed the possibility at the time- only to find himself running out of options and finally talking himself into it.
 
Unless Brod had his head up his own arse (yep, we all know that much is true <laugh> ) he had a good twelve months to sort something!


Bollocks. People who have their head up their arses don't end up managing top PL sides, We may not his style but that is another matter. His head seemed fairly not up his arse last season I reckon you thought ? If I didn't know better I might call you plastic <whistle>

Barca only made an offer for Suarez after he got banned for biting <whistle> He was pretty much an LFC player till that point, that was in the summer wasn't it?

I think you need a new calendar you clown <laugh>
 
Not really- it's an opinion.
You might be right, I'm not disagreeing with you- but stating something is a hard fact when you can't know that it is doesn't offer much room for debate.
It's possible that the first mention of Balotelli was pure media speculation and that Rodgers was telling the truth when he dismissed the possibility at the time- only to find himself running out of options and finally talking himself into it.


Logically put. <ok>
 
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