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What a crowdfunding page to raise the money for a private operation

I hear yer bruv, and believe me when I say, the same thought had crossed my mind. However, if I'm understanding this correctly and apologies if I've got this completely wrong in understanding - The medical problem is his breathing, and until that improves, he'd not be fit enough for the Op, even if it was available. Basically your lungs have to be in good working order, before they can go near your heart, because you will need putting on a ventilator, I assume. I thought they did things such as oxygen tests etc. Someone please correct me if I have this all wrong.
 
I hear yer bruv, and believe me when I say, the same thought had crossed my mind. However, if I'm understanding this correctly and apologies if I've got this completely wrong in understanding - The medical problem is his breathing, and until that improves, he'd not be fit enough for the Op, even if it was available. Basically your lungs have to be in good working order, before they can go near your heart, because you will need putting on a ventilator, I assume. I thought they did things such as oxygen tests etc. Someone please correct me if I have this all wrong.

I read it the same way. That he can't undergo an op because it's too risky for him. Really hope he pulls though, one of life's good guys is Joe.
 
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I hear yer bruv, and believe me when I say, the same thought had crossed my mind. However, if I'm understanding this correctly and apologies if I've got this completely wrong in understanding - The medical problem is his breathing, and until that improves, he'd not be fit enough for the Op, even if it was available. Basically your lungs have to be in good working order, before they can go near your heart, because you will need putting on a ventilator, I assume. I thought they did things such as oxygen tests etc. Someone please correct me if I have this all wrong.
I’m pretty sure Joe said he had COPD, so I’m afraid you’re right mate.
 
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Barely know him but he seems like a truly nice genuine fella.

Horrible to hear this, truly hope everything works out <ok>
 
Thinking of you Joe ... stay strong buddy <ok>
He's a strong willed mofo..

I've known a whole lot them down the years, through this board....Been **** the last year or 2....Grandpos, Burley and Billy...

I still miss Billy, as i knew him in real life. The ****ing lightweight<laugh>

All mentioned knew each other well (in or out of this board)...
 
Joseph Mandingo. Hope you’re doing ok bro. If you pop your head in and read this just know me and the rest of your homies are thinking bout ya. <ok>

I think he was expecting to have his Op around now, when he last posted on Comm's charity thread. I'm sure he was saying or hoping Mid September.
 
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Unfortunately, Joe is a victim of the obsession with the coronavirus. Tragically, he is one of an increasing number that now rank in their thousands.

It is despicable what our Government is doing to us.
 
Unfortunately, Joe is a victim of the obsession with the coronavirus. Tragically, he is one of an increasing number that now rank in their thousands.

It is despicable what our Government is doing to us.

Ok, I might be speaking out of turn here, so I will apologise to Joe if I am.

HiaG, as I understood, and how I've understood it all along, was Joe's delay was due to his lungs, basically oxygen levels. Now I'm not going into why I know this stuff, but if your lungs are not up to it, then you can't have a heart op. The only thing I don't know is if covid has created any delay around this.

I'm just mystified, to why you are drawing Joe into your view about covid, unless he has privately told you something, we haven't read on the forum or unless I missed a convo on here.

I'll end my say there with you.
 
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I'm just mystified, to why you are drawing Joe into your view about covid, unless he has privately told you something, we haven't read on the forum.

I'll end my say there with you.


I know three people who have had heart surgery delayed. Naturally, the doctors are not going to say “it’s because of coronavirus” so neither I nor anyone else can state that as fact. All we can do is express an opinion.

But the fact is that waiting lists for heart surgery have doubled since the obsession with this virus began, and the delays are expected to increase exponentially in the coming months.

You might not think there is a link between the obsession with coronavirus and delay in life saving surgery for other ailments, but I do.
 
Ok, I might be speaking out of turn here, so I will apologise to Joe if I am.

HiaG, as I understood, and how I've understood it all along, was Joe's delay was due to his lungs, basically oxygen levels. Now I'm not going into why I know this stuff, but if your lungs are not up to it, then you can't have a heart op. The only thing I don't know is if covid has created any delay around this.

I'm just mystified, to why you are drawing Joe into your view about covid, unless he has privately told you something, we haven't read on the forum or unless I missed a convo on here.

I'll end my say there with you.

Yes it was as you describe. Joe said that his operation was delayed because his heart and lungs were in poor shape and the Dr’s didn’t want to risk it.

Not sure if there’s been any update on that. But don’t think it’s got anything to do with COVID. That’s just hiag drawing false parallels again to peruse his agenda with all of this.
 
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I know three people who have had heart surgery delayed. Naturally, the doctors are not going to say “it’s because of coronavirus” so neither I nor anyone else can state that as fact. All we can do is express an opinion.

But the fact is that waiting lists for heart surgery have doubled since the obsession with this virus began, and the delays are expected to increase exponentially in the coming months.

You might not think there is a link between the obsession with coronavirus and delay in life saving surgery for other ailments, but I do.

Whoa hold up fella, what has anything you just said, got to do with Joe, unless he has told you something privately, I think it's a bit much drawing conclusion without knowing the facts. You've litterally completely ignored everything I just said to you, disgraceful.
 
Yes it was as you describe. Joe said that his operation was delayed because his heart and lungs were in poor shape and the Dr’s didn’t want to risk it.

Not sure if there’s been any update on that. But don’t think it’s got anything to do with COVID. That’s just hiag drawing false parallels again to peruse his agenda with all of this.

That's how I understood it Piskie. <ok>
 
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That's how I understood it Piskie. <ok>

It feels a bit crass talking about somebody else’s medical conditions on here without them being present in the convo, so I’m not going to elaborate on that anymore.

Suffice to say that yes, COVID has impacted on health care delivery, of course it has. But Joe told us quite clearly about the circumstances of why his op is delayed.
 
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It feels a bit crass talking about somebody else’s medical conditions on here without them being present in the convo, so I’m not going to elaborate on that anymore.

Suffice to say that yes, COVID has impacted on health care delivery, of course it has. But Joe told us quite clearly about the circumstances of why his op is delayed.

I think it's disgusting, there was no way I could let that ride without reply. It may well be true, but i'd prefer to hear it from Joe than a third party, that has not given us any insight, to why he has decided to bring Joe into this. ie such as saying 'Joe informed me behind PM' or 'did you not see Joe's comment on the forum here.'

Like you stated and I felt the same, that it was a 'crass' remark.
 
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