Ralph Krueger speaks

[ChilcoSaint]

I’ve just read what Beefy posted. That’d be very unusual and if it is true, then it will have a time limit on it. What happens if Kat seems him not right for us? She buys him back out? I can’t see that personally.

That’s more or less what I was thinking. The main point though is that neither Kat nor Gao have said anything since the deal went through but left it to Ralph to say basically nothing. The fans need some kind of reassurance that the owners have got things covered, while the team lurches toward the drop zone, and essentially nobody is saying anything.

 

[Schad]

Anyone else considered that this “lunch” is actually a bollocking?

A message that says that the ego has left and last season those disenchanted players got their wish of the manager going.... but this time that ain’t happening!!!

No more excuses?

I'd have to imagine that blaming it all on VVD and then proclaiming that there are no more excuses might ring a little hollow with the players, heh.

 

[fatletiss]

I'd have to imagine that blaming it all on VVD and then proclaiming that there are no more excuses might ring a little hollow with the players, heh.

Still wouldn’t put it past the and still makes sense to me.

 

[San Tejón]

Well if this doesn’t work, I don’t know what will...

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Two points.
1) If RK, LR and others are getting involved with the players, is it a case of too many cooks.
2) The woman behind Ralph, in the photo. Those eyes seem to be saying “You’re dead”.

 

[Puck]

Two points.
1) If RK, LR and others are getting involved with the players, is it a case of too many cooks.
2) The woman behind Ralph, in the photo. Those eyes seem to be saying “You’re dead”.

She's probably fighting the urge to push him over the rail.

 

[I Sorry I Ruined The Party]

I don't get the feeling that Krueger does that much on the football side of things.

His role seems to be more like an ambassador for management both inside and outside of the club. So, really he's just doing his job trying to put a positive spin on things both inside and outside of the club. I suppose the biggest concern is that everyone seems to hate him. So he's not that good at his job. Personally, he doesn't bother me but I think there's a cultural difference.

Anyway, neither Krueger nor the club are suddenly changing their position. They've been steadily lowering expectations for some time now. Go back two years to that Men in Blazers special and you can hear Krueger saying he doesn't expect us to contend every year. They ask him if Southampton can win the title and he gives a very noncommittal "Who knows? Maybe someday..." kind of answer. That's already in marked contrast to pre-Kreuger when Cortese wasn't even talking about winning PL, but rather winning Champions League.

The club goals and some of their methods used to be fairly specific-- 75% of players from the academy, the black box, etc. We haven't heard about any of that stuff in a while. Now it's just "We March On" and "The Southampton Way." What do those terms even mean? It's a lot of nothing.

 

[ImpSaint]

Does anyone know if the actual money has changed hands? Or is it in a limbo state where Kat effectively still owns the club despite the "deal being done."

 

[ImpSaint]

Seems to me a case of resting on our laurels and believing the hype that we are/were the best run club in the country. Crowning ourselves best of the rest like it is some sort of trophy when in reality we were never that much better than a lot of the league, vast majority of whom spend more than us so was inevitable for them to catch up/overtake if we didn't change our ways. Hoping this season is a wake up call to Les or the new owner has plans to try a different method as the current one is very risky if we want to remain a top flight club for the long term. That is assuming of course that we do stay up.

Totally agree but as I have posted I think a lot of the fanbase are as guilty as the club of this belief in the hype. Reminds me of when we were in the Championship (or maybe even L1 still) and some Saints fan was on the Palace forum giving it the big one about how we were going to be winning the CL within a decade with a first team majority of academy players. I think a lot of us bought into that dream wholesale and it has taken each of us different periods of time to wake up. Some still probably haven;t woken up and think we've just had a couple of seasons of bad luck.

No that wasn't me on the Palace site but I have to admit I was fully sold at that point. I suppose we all wanted to believe it so much and then each promotion and league place advance just made it all the much more believable.

 

[fatletiss]

Totally agree but as I have posted I think a lot of the fanbase are as guilty as the club of this belief in the hype. Reminds me of when we were in the Championship (or maybe even L1 still) and some Saints fan was on the Palace forum giving it the big one about how we were going to be winning the CL within a decade with a first team majority of academy players. I think a lot of us bought into that dream wholesale and it has taken each of us different periods of time to wake up. Some still probably haven;t woken up and think we've just had a couple of seasons of bad luck.

No that wasn't me on the Palace site but I have to admit I was fully sold at that point. I suppose we all wanted to believe it so much and then each promotion and league place advance just made it all the much more believable.

Imps, we’ve still got a couple of seasons to do it

The problem is not the hype, but that people
Believe it as you said. It’s just marketing.

Do people rush out and buy the next best thing every time they watch an advert in the television? It’s not much different. Add to this, you get positive people, like me who will beat the drum, it may encourage people to believe the hype. Difference being I keep my expectations in check.

 

[Number 1 Jasper]

I’ve just read what Beefy posted. That’d be very unusual and if it is true, then it will have a time limit on it. What happens if Kat seems him not right for us? She buys him back out? I can’t see that personally.

How can she buy him back out , when it seems she won’t have the money to do it . I am agreeing with you btw .

 

[Archers Road]

Suppose the owner does not actually care ?

Yes he may / will lose money , but what if he just after land re-development , I hope and think I am wrong , but it COULD be his plan .

It's hardly prime real estate though is it, the land around St Mary's?

I've no idea what Gao is up to or why he has bought us, but I doubt it is to turn St Mary's into a giant Matalan.

 

[Missing Lambo]

It's hardly prime real estate though is it, the land around St Mary's?

I've no idea what Gao is up to or why he has bought us, but I doubt it is to turn St Mary's into a giant Matalan.

Hasn't LFC already done this? Or rather, taken a decent Debenhams and turned into a Primark by nicking all the best gear and leaving the crap for the rest of us?

 

[Number 1 Jasper]

It's hardly prime real estate though is it, the land around St Mary's?

I've no idea what Gao is up to or why he has bought us, but I doubt it is to turn St Mary's into a giant Matalan.

True .

 

[Saints FC 76]

Maybe they're trying to build a complex or a variety of bars/restaurants near or around the ground. I've always liked away grounds that have this type of thing and it would generate more income for the club hopefully.

 

[fran-MLs little camera]

Probably just replacing the sun-faded plastic seats.

 

[ImpSaint]

I don't get the feeling that Krueger does that much on the football side of things.

His role seems to be more like an ambassador for management both inside and outside of the club. So, really he's just doing his job trying to put a positive spin on things both inside and outside of the club. I suppose the biggest concern is that everyone seems to hate him. So he's not that good at his job. Personally, he doesn't bother me but I think there's a cultural difference.

Not so sure it is a cultural difference. Just everyone else seems to want to hear boasts or over ambitious statements. If you get past Ralph's business speak he is the only one that is a realist and I quite like him personally.

 

[fran-MLs little camera]

Not so sure it is a cultural difference. Just everyone else seems to want to hear boasts or over ambitious statements. If you get past Ralph's business speak he is the only one that is a realist and I quite like him personally.

It's his use of business speak and, as you say, a cultural difference. Certainly don't hate him....don't care what he says as long as he does what he is supposed to do. I think people can be unaware of his role....I'm sure he is a busy man doing stuff that we are ignorant of. I hope he is a great Chairman. People seem to be inconsistent in what they want....if he's positive they accuse him of being out of touch and if he is even slightly negative (or realistic) he is accused of being unambitious. I am neutral on him....I hope for Saints sake he is doing well on the unseen stuff.