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tipsycanary said:
Completely agree with all you say. I assumed it had been announced after what their fans have said but I haven't seen anything official. Seems overly ambitious for the minute if you ask me, not sure the club can grow quickly enough to make it worth while. If we can stay in the prem another 2 seasons a 35k stadium will be fantastic and I feel that would be our optimum size. Also any QPR fans who think they can pay off a 180 million stadium in 10 years because there are other events there as well as football are dreaming imo
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yes, that is daft, totally daft. it will be a noose round their necks for 30+ years. that's asking an awful lot of their current owners to stick around that long! that's why it needs to be the right size so its sustainable. i'm not for one minute saying its the same, but take darlington as an example - built a 25k seater stadium because they had premier league ambitions and it killed the club cos the supporter levels were never there. ok its a much bigger misjudgement but it highlights how careful you need to be when assessing potential fan bases. qpr's is probably smaller than our own if i'm being totally honest - i think we all believe our natural fan base is 35k - that would get filled at pretty much every level we play at, but qpr is probably just under 30k. with new fans and the possibility of a bit of glory that may increase but not by 50%!
 
NORTHOLT said:
No it will never happen, and I never said it would.
My point was, it is fairer to compare the calibre our investors, to the people at those clubs, rather than the Pompey fly by nights.
Make that my last post on this thread, & WTF it's got to do with you's, I'll never know!
MYOB you nosey ****s<ok>
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It's a funny old thing NORTHOLT, in your previous existence as a QPR mod, how precious and pretentious you were to all posters from other teams who didn't tug their forlocks and agree with everything you say! Now, after your long period of sulking, you return as the most rude, irrascible , foul-mouthed moron imaginable!

Funny old World!
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
yes, that is daft, totally daft. it will be a noose round their necks for 30+ years. that's asking an awful lot of their current owners to stick around that long! that's why it needs to be the right size so its sustainable. i'm not for one minute saying its the same, but take darlington as an example - built a 25k seater stadium because they had premier league ambitions and it killed the club cos the supporter levels were never there. ok its a much bigger misjudgement but it highlights how careful you need to be when assessing potential fan bases. qpr's is probably smaller than our own if i'm being totally honest - i think we all believe our natural fan base is 35k - that would get filled at pretty much every level we play at, but qpr is probably just under 30k. with new fans and the possibility of a bit of glory that may increase but not by 50%!
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I mentioned in a post earlier that having a stadium that is too large can cost a club money rather than make it and Darlington was the example I had in my head at the time. I don't think that will happen to QPR but they do have to be careful. The other is Plymouth who announced plans for a 40,000 seater to host WC matches and they got relegated that season and now look where they are. Granted neither of these sides are as big as QPR but I feel they should be wary of trying to grow faster than the club can.
 
NORTHOLT said:
No it will never happen, and I never said it would.
My point was, it is fairer to compare the calibre our investors, to the people at those clubs, rather than the Pompey fly by nights.
Make that my last post on this thread, & WTF it's got to do with you's, I'll never know!
MYOB you nosey ****s<ok>
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Nice and polite I see. <doh>

I just mentioned it as I saw it in the paper and there happened to be a thread about QPR.
 
ncfcwonky said:
Just read that Park Ji Sung was persuaded to join QPR cos they want to match Chelsea! <laugh>

If that's ever going to happen, it is a long way away.
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We regularly finished above them in the 90s. We ere divisions above Fulham in the 90s too, then they were divisions above us in the 00s and now we are back level again. They are in huge trouble in the Russian leaves and its quite possible they could do a Leeds.
 
And I think I'm fine with our policy of giving young English talent a chance to shine in the premier league, and doin so, over QPR's policy

At Norwich, we create our own heroes, at QPR they buy other people's heroes when they get too old
 
Beefforhire-NCFC said:
And I think I'm fine with our policy of giving young English talent a chance to shine in the premier league, and doin so, over QPR's policy

At Norwich, we create our own heroes, at QPR they buy other people's heroes when they get too old
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blunt, but i agree with the sentiment beefy. i suspect we feel more connection to our players than they do to theirs.
 
Might i interject for a moment, why is it so impossible that QPR couldn't fill a 40k (taking the average between 35k and 45k) stadium? London alone has a population of nearly 8 million people,so the base is there to work on, and that doesn't include fans from outside of london! I presume there is a waiting list for season tickets at loftus rd, does any QPR fans know? so i'm sure if they made it affordable they could get punters through the door, plus also they would be able to allocate more tickets for away fans, so I would say in that 40k you can say around 15% could go to away fans.


Its not so impossible as you make out.
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
blunt, but i agree with the sentiment beefy. i suspect we feel more connection to our players than they do to theirs.
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While that might be true I would wager if QPR have a good season (which i believe they will), most of their fans will not give two hoots about sentiment in any shape or form, and to be honest, during the early 90's I never felt any real connection with our players.

My viewpoint has always been that I am not a great deal more than a paying customer and the reality is that all football fans are pretty much the same.
 
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