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Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by CanariesSoccer, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. igor60

    igor60 Well-Known Member

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    Ain't you canary-boys are just cute.........Well, the common factor in those "rags to riches"-stories has left you for riches. You must be nervous and wetting yourself when you think about future season with Hughton. Of course you will answer that you count on Hughton who is probably better than Lambert and all your "rags to riches"-players are better than last season. Maybe so, maybe not......
     
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  2. HoopyD

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    Superman;
    I agree you have some very good and hungry players who have performed amazingly for your club, and the fact that they give 100% week in and week out probably helps you to relate to them more.
    I'm not saying we don't have any fighters (cue jokes about Barton) for the badge but your clearly have more pulling in the same direction.

    Very valid point about money, it can be a curse as the club is usually at the mercy of some kind of oligarch who can remove funds as and when he sees fit, and as it is their money, why can't they?

    We are not unfamiliar to cash problems, whether it be going into administration or being let down by owners not spending, we've had that twice. First with Chris Wright and then Bernie and Flavio.
    For once we seem to have an owner who is actually doing what he said he would and I cannot help but get excited about our prospects for the future, but visiting your boards will help me to remember to not get too carried away.
     
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  3. ncfcwonky

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    I agree and can see why Mackie is considered a hero at QPR. Not so well known before he joined QPR and has helped the club into the Premier League making a name for himself. I also can see why Taarabt is a hero at QPR, an extremely talented player and was probably the best player in the Championship when QPR got promoted.

    I just don't feel the same could be said for the recent signings QPR have made. They are not as prolific as they used to be and are just names who are being paid way too much.
     
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  4. Beefforhire-NCFC

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    By signing butterflied we are still commited to bringing in talented young players from the lower leagues

    Different gaffer, same direction.
     
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  5. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    hoopy, if you're wondering why many city fans are still to be convinced by your owner it is because he tried to buy us first, when we were at our very lowest ebb, having been relegated to league one for the first time since god knows when. we rejected his proposal - something never quite sat right with him, and delia and the board didn't want him to take the club on. there must have been a very good reason why, at our absolute lowest, we felt it wrong for fernandes to take control of our club. delia was pretty desperate to sell at the time so we are all very sceptical of the man. i have to say i think we have good reason to be sceptical, even if you haven't seen light of this yet. his ego seems to require massaging on tv and radio every five minutes - that doesn't make him a bad owner but i get the feeling there is more to him that he's letting on at this stage. we shall wait and see and for the time being, he has achieved what he set out to do last year - keep you up and build on that.
     
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  6. Swords Hoopster

    Swords Hoopster New Member

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    I have absolutely no problem with Beef's sexual orientation. In fact, I'm almost insulted you would insinuate homophobic tendencies on my behalf.

    Beef is entitled to be on this Site just as much as anyone else. I might not agree with him but I can assure you his sexuality does not come into it.
     
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  7. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Then why do you keep banging on about it (if you'll pardon the pun)?

    You've come across as entirely homophobic in your posts. If you don't want to come across that way, don't comment on his sexuality
     
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  8. Beefforhire-NCFC

    Beefforhire-NCFC Well-Known Member

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    LOL we're doing this aren't we. It's come to this.

    I'm not sure I have to justify it, and I'm sure it comes as a great disappointment to this mockney bloke but I am in fact straight.

    It's a shame that the "your gay" jokes is all he's got to talk about, as I tear him and his football club to pieces before his very eyes, but I'm not surprised. He's from Ireland AND a QPR fan, I'm pretty sure the government has a mental care benefit for that combination.
     
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  9. Swords Hoopster

    Swords Hoopster New Member

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    I won't in future.

    Good come back to be fair. <laugh>
     
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  10. igor60

    igor60 Well-Known Member

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    Congrats about your latest signing. I take you word that he is going to be a hit in prem. Hughton on the otherhand would like to bring something of his own to norwich as the new manager usually does. Does that bother you at all? I suppose no? My prediction is that Norwich will have troubles and might even get relegated. Without Lambert and second year curse could be too much for you.
     
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  11. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Igor, you may want to check out the history of the so called 2nd season syndrome. The numbers would actually suggest safety again is a more likely scenario. Not saying we will survive easily or at all, just the numbers are stacked in favour of teams in their 2nd season.

    I think most of us are not under the illusion that the coming season is going to be easy for us, it possibly will not be but until it gets under way we simply will not know. Same goes for QPR, Swansea and all the others that are likely to just be "also rans" in the PL. 3 from 11 are going to get relegated, that is the only thing that can be said with any degree of certainty as of today.
     
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  12. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    if we are at peril from the mythical '2nd season syndrome', aren't qpr too...?
     
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  13. igor60

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    We did have that '2nd season syndrome already on our first season;) Seriously, playing under someone else than Lambert is the major questionmark for you. You have promoted from League one to premier league quite astonishing way and may i say Lamberts way too. He was the major architecht for your rise. Hughton have large boots to fill.......
     
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  14. redruthyella

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    Obviously the letters HUGH seem to be a problem area. We have HUGHton who has nothing to prove to us but according to you has to prove he is better than Lambert.
    You have HUGHes who has everything to prove. He left Fulham because he said they lacked the ambition to match his.
    Now Mr Publicity Seeker has appointed him and is giving him the funds to match his ambition.
    Pressure, what pressure?
     
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  15. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    What would your answer be if the question was.....If Chris Hughton keeps Norwich in the PL next season, will he be as good as PL was?
     
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  16. igor60

    igor60 Well-Known Member

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    If Hughton get canaries to top-10 he would be near as good as Lambert. If he just keep them in the premier league (13-17) it would be job fine done but not be near Lambert. Lambert did create your current team and bring them from league one to the premier league where he keeped you comfortably. I think Hughton will face some pressure because if he fails now his career will be done and dusted.
     
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  17. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    i think that's a fair point. it is a question mark but hughton has a good track record and lambert wouldn't have had the success he had at norwich without the players doing it out on the pitch - those players are still here. there seems to be a common assertion from people who aren't connected to the club that this is a 'difficult job'. i don't see it that way at all - i think if anything its a pretty easy job, especially for hughton to walk into considering the turmoil at other clubs he's had to put up with! we've got a good squad already in place which comfortably staved off the threat of relegation. we don't have the massive expectations like some others will, such as west ham and dare i say it, qpr - we all know that success for us this season will be to stay up so we can have some real building blocks in place thanks to the sky money. we will be able to increase capacity at carrow road to our 'real' level of 35k and the club will genuinely be in a strong position. as it stands, we are still in debt and haven't got a big enough capacity to warrant paying players the 'going rate' - with an increase in capacity and the extra tv money, we'll be able to push on with bigger and better plans. hughton provides us with a sensible and intelligent outlook, just as the club behind the scenes have shown. its a match made in heaven. 17th is success for us next season. i wonder what qpr fans will demand next season...
     
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  18. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    that, with all due respect, is complete bollocks! i would imagine, even if we are relegated next season, hughton will remain our manager in the championship and be provided with the funds to get us back up again at the first time of asking. he isn't suddenly going to become a bad manager overnight if he fails to keep us up - its an incredibly difficult league which will be better than last year in my opinion - his aim is to keep us up, not better what lambert did - that can wait until we are settled.
     
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  19. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Obviously only time is going to tell but most of us are reasonably optimistic CH will do a decent job. The players have few excuses now as they have 1 year of Premier League experience under their belt (something lacking this time last year) and they know they can compete at this level (certainly up to a point).

    I am inclined to agree CH will have some pressure from certain parts of the crowd as we want to remain in the top flight if possible however I do think the pressure on CH will not be as great as they are on Mark Hughes and if we do go back down the world is not likely to collapse around our ears.

    That is something I think most of us are trying to say - TF and QPR are trying to raise the bar at quite an alarming rate (nothing wrong with the ambition) but if you guys have a similar season to last there are going to be quite a number of disgruntled fans I would guess as the expectations are getting higher. If for some reason you end up getting relegated it could be a problem, especially if you do not bounce straight back up. Hence my earlier post that a new stadium (especially the size proposed) is a risk but it has become a necessary risk for your club as Loftus Road is some years behind many grounds now.

    The way I view it, and this is not directly a slant on QPR, is.....What have the following clubs all got in common.
    Coventry City, Southampton, Derby Co, Leicester City, Leeds Utd, Ipswich Town, Middlesbrough?
    The answer is they all tried to reach for the stars and got a little too ambitious too quickly and all got relegated with financial difficulties. I am also pretty sure all those fans of those clubs also believed their chairmen and club would not let it happen either and that all the finances would cope with it etc.

    That is where we are coming from. While a proposed huge stadium is a great prospect, history would indicate that it is not always a great idea and it seldom seems to work in the short - medium term. Southampton are the only team to have come back from it so far and it took them a long time to manage it.
     
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  20. JM Fan

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    Completely agree with your post Supers. We have some good young players, most of whom have had the experience of playing in the PL for most of a season and I'm excited by the additions thath CH has made and will make. I'm pleased we've got a new manager, as some of PL's team selections towards the end of the season left me slightly baffled. If we can get Davies or someone similar and perhaps a holding midfielder along with a winger who can score goals, then I'd be happy with our lot!! <cheers>
     
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