Potential DaGrosa Takeover

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Libby said:
It is outside the top flight. Also works in Germany.
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We are not in Germany & at the moment we are also not in the Championship or lower leagues. With fan ownership (as good as that sounds) we most certainly will be.
let's just explore the Fan ownership thing for a while.
We probably have 100,000 fans at most who would be willing/able to invest, if everyone of those fans gave £1,000.00 this would only give us £100,000.000. now while that is a **** load of money to us mere mortals it is small fry when it comes to owning/running a football team. It wouldn't even be enough to buy the club let alone run it.
 
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There is not a cat in hells chance of Southampton being owned by fans. Part owned maybe but not in the premier! We have passed that stage years ago!
Anyone who eventually buys us will need to spend a lot before they'll get any sort of profit. At the moment we are not glamorous enough.
 
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We’d have to be going really cheap to get a really good buyer in my view. A bit like when Liebherr took us over. We had a lot of room for growth and the potential profit to be made was obvious with (relatively) small investment.

We currently are at basically our max (lower half PL team, could be argued we are over achieving given size) so not much room for growth from an investor point of view, unless serious amounts of cash are poured in

Never say never but I think it highly unlikely a Man City type owner would buy Saints, if/when we get new owners it will be on the tier below but who hopefully are willing to put some money in as being “self sufficient” in the PL and being competitive isn’t viable.

So 4 is the most likely I’d say, or 5 - a millionaire who won’t invest their own money and just keep us ticking over on the same model as now
 
Schad said:
We won't, but if we're not a PL club and don't have new owners, what we'll be is bankrupt, not a fan-owned club.
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Playing devil's advocate for a second the club going bankrupt is probably the most likely way of fans getting a chance.
 
Btw I never said it was realistic, just answering the question of what I'd want. Some of the other options aren't very realistic either.
 
Libby said:
Playing devil's advocate for a second the club going bankrupt is probably the most likely way of fans getting a chance.
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Didn’t happen in 2009 despite there being months, if not years, of failed leadership leading up to administration. How on Earth do you think it could happen now, when most fans have far less available income than they did 12 years ago?
 
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Franny's Tache said:
We are not in Germany & at the moment we are also not in the Championship or lower leagues. With fan ownership (as good as that sounds) we most certainly will be.
let's just explore the Fan ownership thing for a while.
We probably have 100,000 fans at most who would be willing/able to invest, if everyone of those fans gave £1,000.00 this would only give us £100,000.000. now while that is a **** load of money to us mere mortals it is small fry when it comes to owning/running a football team. It wouldn't even be enough to buy the club let alone run it.
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What about setting up a Euromillions syndicate, with each of us buying one ticket for the Friday night rollover, and all promising to give all of our winnings, less the original stake money, to the club? That should raise about £40.
 
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Libby said:
Playing devil's advocate for a second the club going bankrupt is probably the most likely way of fans getting a chance.
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True, but only with some serious caveats. We'd probably need to be in League One or lower (League Two most likely), and we'd need to have a debt load that is either entirely secured against non-primary assets (the MSD loan is against property other than the stadium, so it works?) or unsecured, so that we actually had a club thereafter. Pretty difficult needle to thread.

And even then, most of the fan-owned clubs in England do not remain that way terribly long. Exeter City Supporters Trust is the longest-running fan syndicate with majority ownership that I am aware of, and they've been successful overall, but they've also flirted with disaster on a couple occasions. Fall out of the League and they're under enormous strain; progress up the League and they cannot compete.
 
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