Off Topic Politics Thread

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......loading...... said:
Mate, you say you want people locked up for violence and the government acts fast and locks people up for violence... but it is the wrong people?
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Where have I said that?

I have never slated the government for locking violent people or rioters up. I just pointed out that they only react when it is right wing protests and leave left wing protests alone.

Of course people that are burning hotels down should be jailed. Of course people that genuinely incite violence should be jailed. But they should also be going after the knife wielding Islamists running the streets of Birmingham.
 
Osvaldorama said:
Where have I said that?

I have never slated the government for locking violent people or rioters up. I just pointed out that they only react when it is right wing protests and leave left wing protests alone.

Of course people that are burning hotels down should be jailed. Of course people that genuinely incite violence should be jailed. But they should also be going after the knife wielding Islamists running the streets of Birmingham.
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Were you complaining about two tier policing when offenders were receiving hefty sentences after the 2011 riots (When the the rioters were mostly black, and the public prosecutor was Keir Starmer)?
 
Archers Road said:
Were you complaining about two tier policing when offenders were receiving hefty sentences after the 2011 riots (When the the rioters were mostly black, and the public prosecutor was Keir Starmer)?
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No. I was complaining about how politicians were bending the knee and complicit with the riots.

My views are pretty consistent tbh. Be tougher on crime. Ignore race/religion and consistently prosecute and tackle bad behaviour.

Instead they mostly ignored the troublemakers during BLM and pro-Palestine marches whilst bringing the hammer down on the recent right wing protests.
 
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Osvaldorama said:
No. I was complaining about how politicians were bending the knee and complicit with the riots.

My views are pretty consistent tbh. Be tougher on crime. Ignore race/religion and consistently prosecute and tackle bad behaviour.

Instead they mostly ignored the troublemakers during BLM and pro-Palestine marches whilst bringing the hammer down on the recent right wing protests.
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Do you think Farage, and some ministers from the previous government, were complicit in the recent riots?
 
Archers Road said:
Do you think Farage, and some ministers from the previous government, were complicit in the recent riots?
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I don’t see how Farage can be blamed at all

I blame mostly the conservatives for ****ing the country up over the last 14 years, with a sprinkling of Blair for opening the borders and Starmer for pouring gasoline on the fire.

Again, to be clear: the protestors have real legitimate concerns. Don’t let the few bad apples that rioted drown out the real concerns of the many peaceful people who feel similarly.

The current government is trying to gaslight everyone into thinking the protests were far right thugs. But there are many millions who feel the same but aren’t thugs or far right.
 
Osvaldorama said:
I don’t see how Farage can be blamed at all

I blame mostly the conservatives for ****ing the country up over the last 14 years, with a sprinkling of Blair for opening the borders and Starmer for pouring gasoline on the fire.

Again, to be clear: the protestors have real legitimate concerns. Don’t let the few bad apples that rioted drown out the real concerns of the many peaceful people who feel similarly.

The current government is trying to gaslight everyone into thinking the protests were far right thugs. But there are many millions who feel the same but aren’t thugs or far right.
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Did the many millions riot? Because unless they smashed **** up and set light to mosques, the government haven’t said jack **** about them.
 
StJabbo1 said:
I'm sure you'll agree the new government deserves a pat on the back for swiftly taking steps to make space for the fast tracked violent rioters to start their sentences.
Telegraph 16 July 2024
"Ministers will fast track removal of offenders from other countries who make up around 12 per cent of jail population.
Fast-track removals of foreign criminals are expected to be pledged in the King’s Speech on Wednesday as part of efforts to tackle the prison overcrowding crisis."
HoC Library 2 Aug 2024
"In 2023, just under 4,000 foreign offenders were removed from the UK. This was the highest number in four years, but removals remain lower than pre-pandemic levels. From 2010 to 2019, removals averaged 5,500 per year."
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There's ignore and ignorance
 
......loading...... said:
Did the many millions riot? Because unless they smashed **** up and set light to mosques, the government haven’t said jack **** about them.
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You are wilfully ignorant at this point as I’m fairly sure you can’t be this dumb.

Starmer has wound up half the country by labelling everyone far right.
 
The EU have lost their minds.

Writing to Elon Musk to try and censor his interview with Donald Trump.

Wtf are they thinking?
 
My name is Billy said:
Sides. Sure.

You know - not everyone is the same in their political approach Loading. I couldn't really give a toss about Labour or the Conservatives.

I just want to live in a nice place, where im not taxed to death.

We may have a new party, but let's be honest - it's the same bollocks just with a different badge on the T-shirt. Don't believe it will ever be any different.
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Fareham? Andover? Havant? I recommend Liverpool. It has its downside but it has fantastic architecture, a thriving cultural scene, miles and miles of green spaces and close access to some of the lovelist parts of the UK - Snowdonia, the Peak District and the Lake District.
 
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