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Oh in this instance, I think the whole thing is embarrassing and ridiculous, and once more the more slavering section of the Tory party is making an arse of themselves.

I’m just not entirely sure everyone really gets judged on their actions and character, without that getting stained by who they represent in the larger picture. But that’s human nature, I guess.

Isn’t this equally true of us on this board? Because we lean left and respond to this weak attack on a Labour MP by clarifying how weak it is we all get accused of being knee-jerk socialists!

There is a definite bias in here towards Labour. But then there is also a bias towards driving on the left, eating non-poisonous foods and not jumping off cliffs. Sometimes a bias just reflects what is obviously better for us as individuals and society.

 

[thereisonlyoneno7]

But but Tories are really nasty. Would you invite Cruella for supper? Not on your life. I I would however love to sit down to supper with Angela.

I'll give you that.

 

[thereisonlyoneno7]

Oh in this instance, I think the whole thing is embarrassing and ridiculous, and once more the more slavering section of the Tory party is making an arse of themselves.

I’m just not entirely sure everyone really gets judged on their actions and character, without that getting stained by who they represent in the larger picture. But that’s human nature, I guess.

Exactly that. No matter how hard I try I can't like anyone who supports Pompey.

 

[saintrichie123]

Exactly that. No matter how hard I try I can't like anyone who supports Pompey.

I actually get on with someone who supports Pompey, we have healthy banter, no malice at all.
I just feel sorry for the fact he has 6 fingers on each hand

 

[saintrichie123]

I actually don’t remember this one.

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[StJabbo1]

My point was it would be interesting to see where many MPs register to vote and where they declare they live for their expenses.

That would be an interesting bit of research that may have already been done, but it's MATCHFUCKINGDAY! Bollocks to political bollocks.

 

[StJabbo1]

I actually get on with someone who supports Pompey, we have healthy banter, no malice at all.
I just feel sorry for the fact he has 6 fingers on each hand

Has he got webbed toes to?

 

[shoot_spiderman]

I get what you are saying. But look above there are posts of

Rich Tories
Tories with second homes
Tories with kids at school in London but live elsewhere.

You can be rich and not a Tory, you can have two homes and not be a Tory. I could go on.

There are going to be politicians that behave and misbehave from all parties, but the current batch of high profile Tories have really set the bar low

And their attempts to deny when found out have often been appalling and dishonest

If there were similar levels in the Labour Party then the Mail and Express would be shouting about it

This Rayner issue is on such a small scale and her response reasonable

I assume we’ll find out more soon because they’ll have to clear this up

Then we can decide if it was real or mud-raking

 

[The Ides of March]

But but Tories are really nasty. Would you invite Cruella for supper? Not on your life. I I would however love to sit down to supper with Angela.

But would your wife like it? She is after all an attractive and youngish woman!!

 

[StJabbo1]

So much strawmannery here yet again. We can’t comment on this case - which very much looks like bullshit - because we are more critical of Tory misdemeanours? Point us to one as shallow as this accusation and let’s see the truth of this.

I agree all MPs should be held accountable. It is interesting that both Starmer and Rayner have put their jobs on the line to back up their innocence. This is starkly different to a Tory party where the PM was found to have acted unlawfully and to have lied- yet not stepped down.

I am not a fan of Starmer but it is obvious that Labour are up against a very uneven playing field and have to be impeccable in their actions to get elected. The fact some are trying to make out this Raynor thing is in any way comparable to Tory behaviour over the last 5 years is just proof that too few people can see basic truths.

Not wishing to deflect from Angela Raynor's alleged heinous crime but the moaning Mone has gone under the radar of late, when it comes to barefaced lies and criminal activity she and dodgy Doug take the biscuit.
"On 26 January 2024, assets controlled by Mone and her husband were frozen under a court order obtained by the Crown Prosecution Service.[77][78][79] The Financial Times reported that restrictions had been placed over £75m worth of assets, including a townhouse in Belgravia, properties in Glasgow, an estate on the Isle of Man and numerous bank accounts.[80]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miche...2022 The House,her name" amid the allegations.

 

[St. Luigi Scrosoppi]

But would your wife like it? She is after all an attractive and youngish woman!!

My wife isn't so youngish anymore but she is very attractive.

 

[saintrichie123]

Staggering.

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[St. Luigi Scrosoppi]

Staggering.

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And some people on this thread still don't understand why most of us are anti Tory.

 

[StJabbo1]

And some people on this thread still don't understand why most of us are anti Tory.

Not just on here the tories are loathed nationwide. Anyone with scruples in what was the tory party have been ostracised, what's left is reform lite.

 

[Le Tissier's Laces]

And some people on this thread still don't understand why most of us are anti Tory.

I think everyone understands, and the vast majority agree (as will be evidenced when they're eviscerated at the election).

 

[It'sOnlyAGame]

I wouldn't sit down to "supper" with anyone. It's a pretentious term used by the bourgeoisie to sound superior to the oiks who started using dinner instead of tea.
Having said, that I do get the impression Rayner's table manners would be a bit suspect. Would she know what a fish knife is? She's a bit council estate wouldn't you say?

 

[StJabbo1]

I wouldn't sit down to "supper" with anyone. It's a pretentious term used by the bourgeoisie to sound superior to the oiks who started using dinner instead of tea.
Having said, that I do get the impression Rayner's table manners would be a bit suspect. Would she know what a fish knife is? She's a bit council estate wouldn't you say?

Might know what a fish wife is.

Tea., dinner or supper? Not just a class thing also part of the north/south or over the border divide.

 

[The Ides of March]

I think everyone understands, and the vast majority agree (as will be evidenced when they're eviscerated at the election).

I would not be so sure about that. Let's hope the SNP vote holds up in.Scotland. Why would a Scot vote for a Westminster party in the first place? And for all.his strengths, Kier Starmer does not have the charisma of Tony Blair, although he might have better policies.

 

[Le Tissier's Laces]

I would not be so sure about that. Let's hope the SNP vote holds up in.Scotland. Why would a Scot vote for a Westminster party in the first place? And for all.his strengths, Kier Starmer does not have the charisma of Tony Blair, although he might have better policies.

People aren’t going to vote for Starmer because he’s any good. They’ll be voting for a change (rightly) from this current mob.

 

[The Ides of March]

People aren’t going to vote for Starmer because he’s any good. They’ll be voting for a change (rightly) from this current mob.

We might as well vote Reform if all we want is a change? (tongue in cheek). Seriously, though, a sizeable % of Tory voters may well stay at home or vote for minority parties in many redwall seats thus enabling Labour to recapture them. Seats like Southampton Itchen will need to be flipped for Labour to get a decent majority. IMO.the projected Labour majority won't be anything like it was in.1997! What would be political fun, would be Labour getting around 310, which is 100.more than in 2019! Would they seek an alliance with the Greens, SNP, Plaid, SDLP, Lib Dems or go it alone??