Off Topic Politics Thread

[Osvaldorama]

VP Picks for either candidate could have more weight than usual

Jesus Christ if Kamala Harris becomes President we are all absolutely ****ed.

She has the IQ of a brick.

I am truly stunned at how much more clear, sincere, lucid and intelligent Putin is than any of the Western politicians. It’s terrifying.

We need to sort our **** out in the West immediately. Continuing to elect corrupt idiots and senile bureaucrats will end very badly for us all.

 

[Le Tissier's Laces]

Jesus Christ if Kamala Harris becomes President we are all absolutely ****ed.

She has the IQ of a brick.

I am truly stunned at how much more clear, sincere, lucid and intelligent Putin is than any of the Western politicians. It’s terrifying.

We need to sort our **** out in the West immediately. Continuing to elect corrupt idiots and senile bureaucrats will end very badly for us all.

He's certainly more clear, lucid and intelligent. That's never been in doubt.

I would very much take issue with the claim he's sincere though.

 

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He's certainly more clear, lucid and intelligent. That's never been in doubt.

I would very much take issue with the claim he's sincere though.

Os loses a little of his scepticism when watching right leaning broadcasts.

The interview is absolutely transparent in its ends. Putin is absolutely transparent in his goals. The lack of sincerity is blisteringly obvious.

This is a PR coup for the greatest enemy of Western Democracy, yet all these flag waving patriots in the US are drinking it up. This world is ****ed.

Absolute clowns.

 

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This is the Man the American Right Admire

"I don’t regret anything. I did everything absolutely correctly." Vladimir Putin.
"Sometimes it is necessary to be lonely in order to prove that you are right." Vladimir Putin.

I have picked these quotes out as they show him telling you who he is. He is an absolutist. He is right. Nobody else's opinion matters. When people have died on his orders they are the right orders. He is willing to live alone and in his vast mansion and tell the world how things are. He is a true despot - and he is proud of it.

Like all despots, he kills people who get in his way.

https://www.rferl.org/a/enemies-kremlin-deaths-prigozhin-list/32562583.html

Putin doesn't just talk like a despot. He acts like a despot. He has a stranglehold over Russia that he controls with murder and imprisonment. Russia belongs to Putin. And yes, he is one knowledgeable evil bastard. He truly believes Russia is supposed to be one of the World's great powers. He truly believes that he is doing great things in killing his enemies.

He has been destabilising and attacking his neighbours for over a decade

In 2008 he attacked Georgia. He has been at war with Ukraine since 2014. The man blames everyone else but the blood is on his hands.


I am sick of people acting like Putin is anything other than an evil autocrat. If you love him, move to Russia. They don't like trans people there. They are not fans of black people there. They don't like gay people there. You aren't allowed a dissenting voice there. Most people live in poverty there. The criminal gangs control everything there.

 

[Saints_Alive]

blood is on his hands.

Including a UK citizen not a million miles away from us in Salisbury.

 

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Including a UK citizen not a million miles away from us in Salisbury.

This actually boils my blood. I see people who praise Putin as close to traitors to my whole way of life.

 

[Osvaldorama]

Os loses a little of his scepticism when watching right leaning broadcasts.

The interview is absolutely transparent in its ends. Putin is absolutely transparent in his goals. The lack of sincerity is blisteringly obvious.

This is a PR coup for the greatest enemy of Western Democracy, yet all these flag waving patriots in the US are drinking it up. This world is ****ed.

Absolute clowns.

You are letting your emotions cloud your judgment. Typical liberal.

This was an important interview. Hopefully it wakes westerners up to how inept our leaders are. It is not good that we are having rings run around us on the global stage.

I am not praising Putin’s ideology or what he is doing. It is transparently propaganda.

But he spoke to Western audiences with more respect and dignity than our own leaders do. I think that is very telling about the state of things over here.

 

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You are letting your emotions cloud your judgment. Typical liberal.

This was an important interview. Hopefully it wakes westerners up to how inept our leaders are. It is not good that we are having rings run around us on the global stage.

I am not praising Putin’s ideology or what he is doing. It is transparently propaganda.

But he spoke to Western audiences with more respect and dignity than our own leaders do. I think that is very telling about the state of things over here.

He hasn’t run rings around ****. If Hitler spoke well, would you praise him?
The guy is a fascist murderer. Enjoy him.

 

[Osvaldorama]

He hasn’t run rings around ****. If Hitler spoke well, would you praise him?
The guy is a fascist murderer. Enjoy him.

Yes. Hitler was a fantastic orator. His ability to persuade large numbers of people will be studied forever. Just because someone is evil or doing terrible deeds doesn’t mean we cant learn something from them.

I said before you seem to live in a childish fantasy world where it’s ‘good vs evil’. I stand by that. This is the world that the mainstream media is trying to create and how they want people to think.

I am not sure what you mean by enjoy him. Just because it was an interesting interview doesn’t mean I like the guy or believe him. I find your reaction very odd

 

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Yes. Hitler was a fantastic orator. His ability to persuade large numbers of people will be studied forever.

I am not sure what you mean by enjoy him

You seem to see something admirable in Putin. I would rather a bumbling fool with good intentions than a snake with a golden tongue.

Putin turned down interviews with hundreds of reputable journalists and chose the laughing stock of journalism to help him convince stupid right wingers to stop supporting Ukraine. Anyone who buys a word of it needs their brain realigning.

 

[Osvaldorama]

You seem to see something admirable in Putin. I would rather a bumbling fool with good intentions than a snake with a golden tongue.

Putin turned down interviews with hundreds of reputable journalists and chose the laughing stock of journalism to help him convince stupid right wingers to stop supporting Ukraine. Anyone who buys a word of it needs their brain realigning.

I do see admirable qualities in him, for sure.
He is very intelligent & charismatic, knows history extremely well, knows the global economy and geopolitics with an intimate knowledge. He is putting Russian people and their interests first on the global stage. None of which can be said about any of our politicians.

However he is also totally disgusting, misguided, selfish, evil, willing to commit heinous acts and a product of a bygone era. There is no justification for the violence he has caused and the world would be a better place without him and his ilk in it.

Have you watched the interview?

 

[StJabbo1]

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[Archers Road]

You've hit the nail on the head. Biden IMO is an awful President, but if the alternative is Trump, then he is the next messiah.

331 million people to choose from and 'the world's most powerful nation' can only come up with a senile (but essentially 'nice') old man and an old megalomaniac lunatic.

For all our failings, we aren't that bad over here (yet)

We've had Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss in the space of one Parliament, so I really don't think we're in a position to mock

 

[StJabbo1]

We've had Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss in the space of one Parliament, so I really don't think we're in a position to mock

We had Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss and the septics trumped us. We brought on Rishi rich but his transphobic jibes couldn't turn a trick.

 

[Schad]

I do see admirable qualities in him, for sure.
He is very intelligent & charismatic, knows history extremely well, knows the global economy and geopolitics with an intimate knowledge. He is putting Russian people and their interests first on the global stage. None of which can be said about any of our politicians.

He is absolutely not putting the interests of the Russian people first. He is quite likely the richest man in the world because he has stolen hundreds of billions from the Russian economy personally, while funnelling hundreds of billions more to his cronies, And getting hundreds of thousands of Russians killed and maimed in his vainglorious war didn't serve their interests much, either,

 

[Osvaldorama]

He is absolutely not putting the interests of the Russian people first. He is quite likely the richest man in the world because he has stolen hundreds of billions from the Russian economy personally, while funnelling hundreds of billions more to his cronies, And getting hundreds of thousands of Russians killed and maimed in his vainglorious war didn't serve their interests much, either,

And yet his approval ratings in Russia are currently the highest in nearly a decade according to a non-government survey.

It’s always difficult to know how reliable surveys are from a country like Russia. But it does appear that many Russians support him and the war.

 

[Schad]

And yet his approval ratings in Russia are currently the highest in nearly a decade according to a non-government survey.

It’s always difficult to know how reliable surveys are from a country like Russia. But it does appear that many Russians support him and the war.

It's very difficult to accurately poll Russian approval of the war given that it's quite literally a crime to be against the war. Another thing he has generously done for the Russian people.

 

[Osvaldorama]

It's very difficult to accurately poll Russian approval of the war given that it's quite literally a crime to be against the war. Another thing he has generously done for the Russian people.

True.

He makes it criminal to be against war

Our leaders lie, change and ignore international laws so they can start wars.


Putin said in the interview that he is willing to negotiate. That he is not expansionist, that this is isolated to just Ukraine based on it’s recent history.

Our wars are mostly so the west can maintain its power and keep the money flowing around the military industrial complex.

I don’t know if I believe Putin but I hope he was telling the truth that he is going no further.

It is 100% worth a watch though. You guys on here as usual commenting without even watching it do make me laugh.

 

[Schad]

True.

He makes it criminal to be against war

Our leaders lie, change and ignore international laws so they can start wars.


Putin said in the interview that he is willing to negotiate. That he is not expansionist, that this is isolated to just Ukraine based on it’s recent history.

Our wars are mostly so the west can maintain its power and keep the money flowing around the military industrial complex.

I don’t know if I believe Putin but I hope he was telling the truth that he is going no further.

It is 100% worth a watch though. You guys on here as usual commenting without even watching it do make me laugh.

I have watched over an hour of it. He's willing to negotiate on the basis that Ukraine does not exist as a nation or a people, which was the purpose of his history lesson. Which neglects the bit where the biggest reason for the Ukraine nation and people is that they have been brutalized by Russian chauvinism for more than a century and do not desire it further. And no, "the Ukrainians should submit to ethnic cleansing in the name of peace" is not a good argument.

 

[StJabbo1]

I have watched over an hour of it. He's willing to negotiate on the basis that Ukraine does not exist as a nation or a people, which was the purpose of his history lesson. Which neglects the bit where the biggest reason for the Ukraine nation and people is that they have been brutalized by Russian chauvinism for more than a century and do not desire it further. And no, "the Ukrainians should submit to ethnic cleansing in the name of peace" is not a good argument.

This, with links to relevant articles and speeches, shows Putin's expansionist plans. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...ian-empire-includes-both-ukraine-and-belarus/