Off Topic Politics Thread
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I would vote the opposite of remain
Deal or no deal And no, I haven't been on holiday at all this year. Been working hard every week, especially since late April when I went back to being employed. Lots of hours. Wife took the kids to Portugal for a month and I stayed here working.
The EU member states leave open the extension door, despite Jean-Claude Juncker's insistance that October the 31st is the end. It's a clear sign they'd also rather we stay than go. I certainly wouldn't want to disappoint them. Upto Jeremy and Co to reject the deal: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-and-eu-reach-brexit-deal-without-dup-backing
the back stop is still there, he just renamed it. (also nearly all the deal is the same as Mays. There's really been very little movement)
This deal still states we have to carry out this on goods entering Ireland, and that it can't happen within NI or Ireland, meaning it happens at UK ports in the same way the backstop worked:
"common risk criteria and standards, control measures and priority control areas; to determine the ports or airports where customs controls and formalities are to be carried out on cabin and hold baggage; to lay down the rules on currency conversion; to adopt measures on the uniform management of tariff quota and tariff ceilings and the management of the surveillance of the release for free circulation or export of goods; to adopt measures to determine the tariff classification of goods; to specify the procedural rules on the provision and the verification of the proof of non-preferential origin; the procedural rules on the facilitation of the establishment in the Union of the preferential origin of goods; to adopt measures to determine the origin of specific goods; the granting of a temporary derogation from the rules on preferential origin of goods benefiting from preferential measures adopted unilaterally by the Union; the determination of the origin of specific goods;"
Really no deal with a Portuguese wife and your kids with family in England and Portugal? Your choice and I hope you've all the possibilities covered from health care to nationality.I would vote the opposite of remain
And no, I haven't been on holiday at all this year. Been working hard every week, especially since late April when I went back to being employed. Lots of hours. Wife took the kids to Portugal for a month and I stayed here working.
And on the subject of timing a 2nd referendum: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...acking-for-second-referendum-on-johnsons-deal
Apparently, should there be a no-deal your best bet is a wife from Ireland, Spain or Portugal. They have agreed to continue free health care to Brits
Ok I'll bite. The Ch5 poll used flawed methodology. By offering a choice of two leave options and one remain it skewed the responses. Don't take my word for it, Sir John Curtice the UK's most prominent psephologist said exactly that. Interestingly the last ten polls aggregated gave 54/46 in favour of Remain. Additionally my theory is that some respondents actually thought that No Deal meant staying as we were I.e. Remain.
She's done the "settled status" thing as have her brother, sister, brother in law and rest of her family here. My kids have British passports. All covered.
Hurrah. Might apply for my Irish passport eventually, if I need to
The "flawed" part you are mentioning is the leading question that most papers, and the TV media, have gone to town on i.e. assuming that leave with and without a deal can be added together as if all those that chose one of these options would automatically transfer to the other leave option. I agree. some leavers would go to remain/revoke. No one knows how many though.
The one I am on about is:
Q3: Regardless of the way you voted in the 2016 referendum, do you support or oppose the UK abiding by the referendum result and leaving the EU?
Support - 62%, Oppose - 38%. 10% of leavers oppose, 35% of remainers support!!!
Kier. One of Blair's creations with their vans all over the council estates, making millions putting new roofs, kitchens, bathrooms in council houses whether they need them or not. When you see Kier every 20 yards then you can forgive the spelling.
Yvette? One of the most pretentious, disingenuous, sanctimonius hypocritical slimeballs in there.
Hesketh isn't quite fit yet I don't think. Has come on a few times with little time to show what he can do. He came on for the last 8 minutes of our demolition (we were all over them) of Sunderland. He replace MOTM Andrade who had tore their left back a new one. Hope he gets a few chances though. Remember being quite excited seeing him start against Burnley only for it to end so soon after.
Maybe he will get on the pitch on Tuesday night. Some lowly team local to you call partsmerth or something like that. I am told their ground is falling down and Alan Freeman replied "Not 'Arf" when he was asked if it was crap.
I'm not really back. I sleep a lot these days as my body aches after a day lumbering 60kg radiators around. Just feeling quite "up" tonight although I'll be going to bed in a mo so I can get up at 04:30 when the alarm goes off.............followed by am elbow in the back that wakes me up.
I don;t really do "the internet" that much these days.
I would vote the opposite of remain
And no, I haven't been on holiday at all this year. Been working hard every week, especially since late April when I went back to being employed. Lots of hours. Wife took the kids to Portugal for a month and I stayed here working.
either way imps nice to see you back .
Not thinking of quitting then? and writing a book about your life at the sharp end?
Thats mostly people not wanting to go through the whole process of a second referendum . it doesn't show how people will actually vote in a referendum at all. That question(although though thats a very leading way of asking it, clearly a biased poll) is usually accompanied by a load more polls where the main question still usually ends up coming out at about 50 - 50.
Anyone who does statistics will say that the way you ask a question massively effects the results.
back in the days (late 80s) I worked in a factory in South Wales. This is a great photo of the work force. I'm top right corner.
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Love pictures of happier times..........everybody smiling, everybody happy, despite not having that much money. Not a hollywood smile to be seen in that picture. (Ok the one at the front does pass.) Such a difference to all the moany gits around these days that are pretty flush with lots of trimmings and perfectly straightened and whitened teeth in comparison to back then.
