Off Topic Politics Thread

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You obviously haven’t looked at the new deal. Some goods would have tariffs and some wouldn’t. Goods coming from NI (80% of their exports come to Britain) would have tariffs.

ok but we do have other ports.........would there still be tariffs all over Uk and what would the tariffs be on.........because surely tariffs would go both ways.......which to me is senseless.
 
ok but we do have other ports.........would there still be tariffs all over Uk and what would the tariffs be on.........because surely tariffs would go both ways.......which to me is senseless.
You obviously don’t care about the businesses in Northern Ireland which will be crippled by this ridiculous new border arrangement.
 
You obviously don’t care about the businesses in Northern Ireland which will be crippled by this ridiculous new border arrangement.

Hey, don’t take things for granted. I care more about the uk more than you or anyone, can ever understand Including putting my life on the line for it. All I’m doing is trying to understand people’s views!!!
 
I am so glad that my retirement years are just around the corner.
The failure of Johnson, or should that be the deliberate decision not to encompass in law, worker’s rights will be the final nail in the coffin of fairness in the workplace.
I can see more and more businesses looking at the gig economy way of trading, making all previously contracted staff, “self employed” and further stripping them of the benefits and protections they currently have.
No sick pay, no holiday pay, no employers NI or pension contributions (would that be correct?) and if your face doesn’t fit, we will be back to the dock gate era of workers turning up and hoping that they get selected for work.
Asda have recently forced staff to change contracts, making some worse off, under the pressure of losing their jobs in the run up to Christmas (probably deliberate strategy) if they refused.
And it’s not so long ago that a Tory MP, can’t remember who, floated the suggestion of having “no fault dismissals” allowing staff to be sacked on a whim.
Horrible times ahead, under the Tories.
 
Hey, don’t take things for granted. I care more about the uk more than you or anyone, can ever understand Including putting my life on the line for it. All I’m doing is trying to understand people’s views!!!
Sorry if I was snappy Beddy. Surely you can see that the nation you fought for will just break up if Brexit happens? First the Scots, then the Northern Irish, and then probably the Welsh as well. England will be a poor little backwater ruled permanently by the Tories. God help us!
 
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I can see why the younger generation are rightly envious. I started a business in 1977 with a three grand overdraft from a bank manager who said I seemed to know what I was doing and trusted me. It was totally unsecured. I had just bought a detached house for nine thousand quid. I am recently retired and loving it . Now my generation have voted to pull the rug from under the youngsters.
 
Sorry if I was snappy Beddy. Surely you can see that the nation you fought for will just break up if Brexit happens? First the Scots, then the Northern Irish, and then probably the Welsh as well. England will be a poor little backwater ruled permanently by the Tories. God help us!

Yes I fully understand that..........I certainly do not want the union to break up........ but the Scottish thing.......is nothing really to do with Brexit as such........it is the SNP trying to use the unpopularity of the British government to expedite independence nothing more. Yes I understand about Brexit being important to them as they voted to stay in. Remember it wasn’t that long ago SNP lost that vote....... However without us or the EU Scotland would be a very poor nation in my view. Let’s have the general election everyone wants and put all behind us including Brexit.
 
Yes I fully understand that..........I certainly do not want the union to break up........ but the Scottish thing.......is nothing really to do with Brexit as such........it is the SNP trying to use the unpopularity of the British government to expedite independence nothing more. Yes I understand about Brexit being important to them as they voted to stay in. Remember it wasn’t that long ago SNP lost that vote....... However without us or the EU Scotland would be a very poor nation in my view. Let’s have the general election everyone wants and put all behind us including Brexit.
They lost the vote in 2014 because the British government PROMISED that they, like the rest of us, would always have all the benefits of EU membership. The Scots know as well as anyone that leaving the EU will be far more ruinous to them than leaving the UK. They, unlike us Little Englanders, actually appreciate how much they benefit from immigration.

I think you will find that if the unthinkable happens and we do leave the EU, an independent Scotland still in the EU will do rather better than England. I will go further. Within 20 years England will be begging to be admitted, not just back to the EU, but to the United Celtic Republic of Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.
 
However, that Indian Sikh lady that just spoke actually brought a round of applause from the No7 house.

Living as a half Indian and half Italian man all my life, what she said hit a chord. I don't want to generalise, but I think most white brits will struggle to realise what she has said and how brits of a foreign (ie of colour) heritage feel. Take away the skin and we all have the same number of bones and the same blood as everyone else.

Well said that lady.

...and breathe.

Found this on Facebook. It’s worth another look.

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This is Led By Donkeys’ best effort yet, which is saying a lot. Quite beautiful, and heartbreakingly emotive. Please watch:
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This film is about what is happening with the Asda workers. God knows how bad things will get if this, or any Brexit happens.

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The people in that photo were happier because Margaret Thatcher hadn’t yet appeared and declared war on working class communities Imps.

Welcome back, even if it’s only a flying visit.
Um, this was 1987, towards the end of Thatchers era (1979 -1990). The workforce was mainly women supporting their ex-miner husbands who were out of work :)
 
I am so glad that my retirement years are just around the corner.
The failure of Johnson, or should that be the deliberate decision not to encompass in law, worker’s rights will be the final nail in the coffin of fairness in the workplace.
I can see more and more businesses looking at the gig economy way of trading, making all previously contracted staff, “self employed” and further stripping them of the benefits and protections they currently have.
No sick pay, no holiday pay, no employers NI or pension contributions (would that be correct?) and if your face doesn’t fit, we will be back to the dock gate era of workers turning up and hoping that they get selected for work.
Asda have recently forced staff to change contracts, making some worse off, under the pressure of losing their jobs in the run up to Christmas (probably deliberate strategy) if they refused.
And it’s not so long ago that a Tory MP, can’t remember who, floated the suggestion of having “no fault dismissals” allowing staff to be sacked on a whim.
Horrible times ahead, under the Tories.

My dad used to tell me stories about the insecure status of dock workers in the days of casual day work. I don’t think he expected to see those conditions become commonplace again in his lifetime