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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Beddytare

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    ok but we do have other ports.........would there still be tariffs all over Uk and what would the tariffs be on.........because surely tariffs would go both ways.......which to me is senseless.
     
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  2. ChilcoSaint

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    You obviously don’t care about the businesses in Northern Ireland which will be crippled by this ridiculous new border arrangement.
     
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  3. Beddytare

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    Hey, don’t take things for granted. I care more about the uk more than you or anyone, can ever understand Including putting my life on the line for it. All I’m doing is trying to understand people’s views!!!
     
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    I am so glad that my retirement years are just around the corner.
    The failure of Johnson, or should that be the deliberate decision not to encompass in law, worker’s rights will be the final nail in the coffin of fairness in the workplace.
    I can see more and more businesses looking at the gig economy way of trading, making all previously contracted staff, “self employed” and further stripping them of the benefits and protections they currently have.
    No sick pay, no holiday pay, no employers NI or pension contributions (would that be correct?) and if your face doesn’t fit, we will be back to the dock gate era of workers turning up and hoping that they get selected for work.
    Asda have recently forced staff to change contracts, making some worse off, under the pressure of losing their jobs in the run up to Christmas (probably deliberate strategy) if they refused.
    And it’s not so long ago that a Tory MP, can’t remember who, floated the suggestion of having “no fault dismissals” allowing staff to be sacked on a whim.
    Horrible times ahead, under the Tories.
     
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  5. ChilcoSaint

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    Sorry if I was snappy Beddy. Surely you can see that the nation you fought for will just break up if Brexit happens? First the Scots, then the Northern Irish, and then probably the Welsh as well. England will be a poor little backwater ruled permanently by the Tories. God help us!
     
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    I can see why the younger generation are rightly envious. I started a business in 1977 with a three grand overdraft from a bank manager who said I seemed to know what I was doing and trusted me. It was totally unsecured. I had just bought a detached house for nine thousand quid. I am recently retired and loving it . Now my generation have voted to pull the rug from under the youngsters.
     
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  8. Beddytare

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    Yes I fully understand that..........I certainly do not want the union to break up........ but the Scottish thing.......is nothing really to do with Brexit as such........it is the SNP trying to use the unpopularity of the British government to expedite independence nothing more. Yes I understand about Brexit being important to them as they voted to stay in. Remember it wasn’t that long ago SNP lost that vote....... However without us or the EU Scotland would be a very poor nation in my view. Let’s have the general election everyone wants and put all behind us including Brexit.
     
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  9. ChilcoSaint

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    They lost the vote in 2014 because the British government PROMISED that they, like the rest of us, would always have all the benefits of EU membership. The Scots know as well as anyone that leaving the EU will be far more ruinous to them than leaving the UK. They, unlike us Little Englanders, actually appreciate how much they benefit from immigration.

    I think you will find that if the unthinkable happens and we do leave the EU, an independent Scotland still in the EU will do rather better than England. I will go further. Within 20 years England will be begging to be admitted, not just back to the EU, but to the United Celtic Republic of Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.
     
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  10. St Badger

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    Found this on Facebook. It’s worth another look.

     
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    This is Led By Donkeys’ best effort yet, which is saying a lot. Quite beautiful, and heartbreakingly emotive. Please watch:
     
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  12. SaintinSerbia

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    well 2004. If you tell me his name I might be able to tell you if I know him (unless his name is Williams or Davies)
     
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  13. St Badger

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  14. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    Ha! I went there too (1979 - 1982) and had a bed-sit in Rhydyfelin for a few months.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/123925637634827/
     
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  15. SaintinSerbia

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    You're well acquainted with this place then!

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    Smoking Room!
     
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  16. St Badger

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    This film is about what is happening with the Asda workers. God knows how bad things will get if this, or any Brexit happens.

     
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  17. SaintinSerbia

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    Um, this was 1987, towards the end of Thatchers era (1979 -1990). The workforce was mainly women supporting their ex-miner husbands who were out of work :)
     
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  18. ChilcoSaint

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    Steve Bell...
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    <laugh> That’s put me in my place then. Still smiling 8 years into Thatcherism - I take my hat off to those women
     
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  20. Archers Road

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    My dad used to tell me stories about the insecure status of dock workers in the days of casual day work. I don’t think he expected to see those conditions become commonplace again in his lifetime
     
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