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What is it with Corbyn? Doesn't he want to become PM? Walking out of a meeting with Chuka in the room does him no favours at all and of course the right-wing press will make a meal of it. I hope he has the sense to realise that he was out of order and apologises to the great man, who I would have loved to see become the next PM. Not going to happen now.

I think the only way Chuka will make PM is if he takes just a tiny step further to the right and joins the Tory party.
Stories circulating say he is being funded by a Tory donor, so who knows what his next step will be.
 
I think the only way Chuka will make PM is if he takes just a tiny step further to the right and joins the Tory party.
Stories circulating say he is being funded by a Tory donor, so who knows what his next step will be.


Well yeah. Another story is that Tony Blair is standing by with backers in place waiting to fund a M.O.R party, but who knows? Blair claims to still be a Labour member btw.
 
What a load of Owen Jones bx that post is. And I have stated before I am not going to put the benefits on here to waste my time with you lot and your EU lovefest.

What strength of feeling? Another mass march by loony lefties? Hurrah for that one.

Loony Lefties?

Here you go, my voting record.

1983 Tory
1987 Tory
1992 Tory
1997 Referendum Party
2001 Tory
2005 Tory
2010 Tory
2015 Tory
2017 Alan Whitehead

****ing idiot.

Vin
 
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And for comparison, here's Fromage addressing the March to Leave shambles (I swear that's it in its entirety, including police and journalists)

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That's all. So we have this utter disaster of a ****show, a national calamity that's being distorted by ill-informed ****ers who think this is all a bit of debating japery rather than the most important decision this country's made in decades. People who have millions in their accounts and so who don't give a toss about what's going to happen to the common man, people who've moved money into the EU (JRM very visibly, others doubtless less so) to protect themselves.

To them it's a bit of fun. To several hundred thousand people today it was important enough to travel to London, and with excellent good humour and wit, protest. (A copper told me it was "golden duty" doing our marches).

It's not over till the fat lady sings. She may be warming up with scales in the dressing room but anything could happen.

However, notwithstanding the boost today has given me, I'm still catastrophically badly off mentally over this ****ing triumph so I'm off back into hiding.

Vin
 

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Sort of agree with you on that but also think everyone is entitled to their own view, as I said I voted remain.
One thing I would say is that no one really knows what will happen, some 'experts' predict the eurozone will fall apart in the next few years, some have predicted the UK being the biggest economy in Europe within five years of we leave, others predict Armageddon if we leave.
Who knows only time will tell.

Something that's missing from that admirably balanced view is the fact that 98% of economists predicted that Brexit will cause the UK economy to shrink, 2% that it will grow. That's a rather important addendum.

Vin
 
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And for comparison, here's Fromage addressing the March to Leave shambles (I swear that's it in its entirety, including police and journalists)

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That's all. So we have this utter disaster of a ****show, a national calamity that's being distorted by ill-informed ****ers who think this is all a bit of debating japery rather than the most important decision this country's made in decades. People who have millions in their accounts and so who don't give a toss about what's going to happen to the common man, people who've moved money into the EU (JRM very visibly, others doubtless less so) to protect themselves.

To them it's a bit of fun. To several hundred thousand people today it was important enough to travel to London, and with excellent good humour and wit, protest. (A copper told me it was "golden duty" doing our marches).

It's not over till the fat lady sings. She may be warming up with scales in the dressing room but anything could happen.

However, notwithstanding the boost today has given me, I'm still catastrophically badly off mentally over this ****ing triumph so I'm off back into hiding.

Vin
Well done Vin I wish I could have made it over. Difficult not to but don't let the bastards drive you down. Plenty of support here.

Jab
 
Sort of agree with you on that but also think everyone is entitled to their own view, as I said I voted remain.
One thing I would say is that no one really knows what will happen, some 'experts' predict the eurozone will fall apart in the next few years, some have predicted the UK being the biggest economy in Europe within five years of we leave, others predict Armageddon if we leave.
Who knows only time will tell.
and some of us have a modicum of reality and common sense
 
Sort of agree with you on that but also think everyone is entitled to their own view, as I said I voted remain.
One thing I would say is that no one really knows what will happen, some 'experts' predict the eurozone will fall apart in the next few years, some have predicted the UK being the biggest economy in Europe within five years of we leave, others predict Armageddon if we leave.
Who knows only time will tell.

Germany's GDP is 43% larger than that of the UK. Any economist suggesting that the UK will catch up in five years isn't an economist.
 
Sort of agree with you on that but also think everyone is entitled to their own view, as I said I voted remain.
One thing I would say is that no one really knows what will happen, some 'experts' predict the eurozone will fall apart in the next few years, some have predicted the UK being the biggest economy in Europe within five years of we leave, others predict Armageddon if we leave.
Who knows only time will tell.
Apathy rules above. Leaving will in most educated opinions bring short and long term damage to those that are least able to cope. Enough I'm off rage against the machine.
 
Germany's GDP is 43% larger than that of the UK. Any economist suggesting that the UK will catch up in five years isn't an economist.
The economist, if he exists, is a ****ing Knobhead, sorry losing it a bit but who can believe the bollocks that's being spouted and sucked up.
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March today

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And for comparison, here's Fromage addressing the March to Leave shambles (I swear that's it in its entirety, including police and journalists)

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That's all. So we have this utter disaster of a ****show, a national calamity that's being distorted by ill-informed ****ers who think this is all a bit of debating japery rather than the most important decision this country's made in decades. People who have millions in their accounts and so who don't give a toss about what's going to happen to the common man, people who've moved money into the EU (JRM very visibly, others doubtless less so) to protect themselves.

To them it's a bit of fun. To several hundred thousand people today it was important enough to travel to London, and with excellent good humour and wit, protest. (A copper told me it was "golden duty" doing our marches).

It's not over till the fat lady sings. She may be warming up with scales in the dressing room but anything could happen.

However, notwithstanding the boost today has given me, I'm still catastrophically badly off mentally over this ****ing triumph so I'm off back into hiding.

Vin


Is that you four pictures down ?
 
I've read a lot of similar comments from people that "claimed" that they voted remain, i'm dubious of that to say the least.
Nice reasoned argument you quoted there.
I know how I voted and the reason was not really for the joint market but the fact that I believe that some of the issues the world faces can only be solved by Nations working closer together.
Happy to debate but not at the level of the quoted comment.
 
Nice reasoned argument you quoted there.
I know how I voted and the reason was not really for the joint market but the fact that I believe that some of the issues the world faces can only be solved by Nations working closer together.
Happy to debate but not at the level of the quoted comment.

Vin is a small businessman who has voted Tory for most of his life, he is that passionate a remainer that he attended the people's march today that says a lot about the coming economical ****storm if we leave the EU to me.