Off Topic Politics Thread

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You rant and rave about people getting fixated on things abroad while paying undue interest in the US political system. You may not have noticed this, but the situation in Gaza, in that tiny spot on the map, is currently the central focus of global political tensions....

I can't say it enough. This issue has global ramifications. It has had global ramifications since 1948 and those ramifications are just getting bigger. I don't want an MP who says BRITAIN FIRST and then sticks his head in the sand and ignores Britain's role in the world.

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The vote was a complete waste of time. No one, least of all Israel or Hamas, cares what the leader of the UK opposition thinks. The next general election isn't due for over a year. The last thing Starmer should be doing is acting like he's already got the keys to No.10 (even if that's the case). All he needs to do is bide his time, keep the pressure on Sunak. Leave the war in Ukraine, war in Gaza etc to the government.
Don’t disagree with what you say (in bold) and crazy that they have ended up in this situation on something they can’t change
however it is the job of the opposition to challenge the govt and that’s what he’s doing, acting as an opposition leader, not like PM in waiting
 
Which just reinforces my view that I'm pretty much ready to give up on politicians altogether. I mean, who gives a flying **** about the King's speech for ****s sake.
The Kings speech lays out gov policy, it matters
Don’t give up on politics, it’s frustrating but it’s democracy and what alternative have we got?
 
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All the politicians are doing is virtue signalling.

If you notice most of the vocal ones are the politicians that have a large amount of Arabs / Muslims in their constituencies. They want to be seen to be pro-Palestine so they gain favour.

In reality Tom is right, it’s a massive waste of time. Israel don’t care what the UK government thinks. They will defend themselves and wipe out any terrorists they deem fit.

Meanwhile politicians score what they perceive to be brownie points, whilst the country continues to degrade due to unbelievably poor leadership.

I wish that there was this much outcry over NHS waiting times & crime rates going up
 
Duck Rishi Rice it's about to hit the fan. Those tory supporters rubbing their hands at the Labour party minor strife must in comparison, must be aghast at Tories ripping themselves apart
"Senior Tory says Suella Braverman wants to act like Putin with hardline alternative Rwanda proposals".
"The row has been triggered by Suella Braverman, the former home secretary. After she was sacked her allies briefed that she was ready to unleash
a “grid of ****” (see https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1835093/suella-braverman-rishi-sunak-betrayal-attack) on Sunak (“grid” is Whitehallspeak for news announcements lined up in advance) and one element has turned up this morning in the Daily Telegraph."

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All the politicians are doing is virtue signalling.

If you notice most of the vocal ones are the politicians that have a large amount of Arabs / Muslims in their constituencies. They want to be seen to be pro-Palestine so they gain favour.

Isn't this how democracy works? If you have a large group with a shared interest that votes for you, it is your job to represent that interest within parliament.

You make representing the interests of constituents sound sordid but that is exactly how representative democracy works.
 
Never mind the party political squabbles in Westminster this is what the previous and current tory governments should be lambasted for. But then again no one with more than half a brain believed the blustering bollocks the abominable gobshite boris was spouting.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...unce-progress-boris-johnson-flagship-projects
"Boris Johnson’s flagship hospital building programme and three levelling up funds are mired in delays and unlikely to deliver on time, two highly critical reports by parliamentary watchdogs have found."

"In a sobering verdict on the former prime minister’s promise to build 40 hospitals by 2030, the public accounts committee said it had “no confidence” that even the new target of 32 would be delivered by that date."

"Dame Meg Hillier, the chair of the committee, said: “The physical edifice that is the NHS is quite literally crumbling before our eyes. There was nothing inevitable about this heartbreaking crisis. It can be laid squarely at the door of the decision to raid budgets reserved for maintenance and investment in favour of day-to-day spending.”

Whatever is provided in facilities have to be staffed from consultants to cleaners. Where are they coming from?
 
In the past two days there have been 11 headlines on the BBC news website with negative terms in them aimed at Labour. Rebellion and rebels has been used over and over. Antisemtic once. Starmer suffers major rebellion. You get the gist.

In the past two days Sunak has seen a genuine attack on his leadership from SB. Massive news. Yet hardly any headlines using the word conservatives. The ones using the term "Sunak" have strangely positive angles. Words like defends, take off, eyebrows raised.
 
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In the past two days there have been 11 headlines on the BBC news website with negative terms in them aimed at Labour. Rebellion and rebels has been used over and over. Antisemtic once. Starmer suffers major rebellion. You get the gist.

In the past two days Sunak has seen a genuine attack on his leadership from SB. Massive news. Yet hardly any headlines using the word conservatives. The ones using the term "Sunak" have strangely positive angles. Words like defends, take off, eyebrows raised.

BBC isn’t fit for purpose on anything! I agree the rebellions in labour have really been sensationalised. Perhaps in an effort to keep things interesting as the Conservatives have long since hit self destruct?
 
Isn't this how democracy works? If you have a large group with a shared interest that votes for you, it is your job to represent that interest within parliament.

You make representing the interests of constituents sound sordid but that is exactly how representative democracy works.

Yes but it shows yet another issue with the open border policy.

Now the politicians are virtue signalling over faraway conflicts and inflaming tensions here instead of focusing on making Britain better
 
The march against Rushanara Ali is pretty grim.

Oh and Jo Stevens today. How lovely.
Trouble with MPs, is that their constituents think that they are in parliament to represent their views, so they get mightily upset when the MP takes the party line and doesnt represent their views. When your MP is not speaking for you, you see calls for them to resign by the voters, and acts of protest to keep the issue in the forefront until it their voice is heard.
 
Trouble with MPs, is that their constituents think that they are in parliament to represent their views, so they get mightily upset when the MP takes the party line and doesnt represent their views. When your MP is not speaking for you, you see calls for them to resign by the voters, and acts of protest to keep the issue in the forefront until it their voice is heard.

Firstly, have more constituents than the vocal minority.

Secondly, intimidation is absolutely not ok.
 
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