plastic fans?

Surprisingly yes.

And how is it gracious of me? I just said that's fair enough. **** me, grow up.

You are asking me to grow up after you trying to define what a 'plastic fan' is on the internet?
 
There's no such thing as a plastic fan.

You're either a fan or you're not.

This

Who gives a **** whether you're the 12 generation of your family to support your club or whether you were brought up within spitting distant of the ground? If you genuinely care for your team, if it really matters to you whether they win, lose or draw then you're a 'real' fan.

And this

I do have connection with Hull City (I live here)

I also like Chelsea (my dad got me to like them, I enjoy watching them a lot and want them to win the Prem)

But even if you don't have a connection, and still loyally support a team, then you are a real fan and whether you get called a 'plastic fan' or not it doesn't matter, because it won't change who you support.
 
I don't have a second team. I support Celtic and that's all.

I know a lot of Scots who support an English team as their 2nd team. I've never really understood it but each to their own I suppose.

What's wrong with Hearts or Hibs? You define what a plastic fan is.

Anyone who supports a club they or their family have no connection with is a plastic fan (and they can be a fan as fan is short for fanatic and plastic fans can be fanatical about their adopted team).
Nothing wrong with somebody whose parents or grandparents moved from elsewhere supporting that team. Nothing wrong with someone who moves to another town or city supporting their home town team and not the team where they live.
Plenty wrong with someone who lives somewhere with a football club supporting some team they have no connection with just because thye have more success. It is comical to come across these Hull and East Yorkshire Whites who detest Man Utd fans from Surrey or Kent but are actually no different themselves.
Strange, as has been metnioned before, how only certian teams are ones people feel the need to adopt. you don't get someone from Beverley deciding that Bury, Crewe or Brentford are the team for them.
 
So now you're dictating whether I post on this thread or not? I'm just discussing this selected topic pal.

Grow up, again.

Where did I dictate something?

Fans of pish poor clubs always through the plastic nonsense about if someone supports a successful team because they know their own team wil never win anything. It's jealousy. Plain and simple.
 
What's wrong with Hearts or Hibs? You define what a plastic fan is.

Anyone who supports a club they or their family have no connection with is a plastic fan (and they can be a fan as fan is short for fanatic and plastic fans can be fanatical about their adopted team).
Nothing wrong with somebody whose parents or grandparents moved from elsewhere supporting that team. Nothing wrong with someone who moves to another town or city supporting their home town team and not the team where they live.
Plenty wrong with someone who lives somewhere with a football club supporting some team they have no connection with just because thye have more success. It is comical to come across these Hull and East Yorkshire Whites who detest Man Utd fans from Surrey or Kent but are actually no different themselves.
Strange, as has been metnioned before, how only certian teams are ones people feel the need to adopt. you don't get someone from Beverley deciding that Bury, Crewe or Brentford are the team for them.

You support a rubbish team don't you?
 
People should be free to support whoever they like but I don't understand the mentality of someone who stops supporting a team because he gets fed up seeing his his original choice lose all the time.

If you support a team you should support them through your whole life, anyone who changes horses midstream after years of supporting one team is a plastic fan. A Glory hunter, whatever.
 
Talk me through why you think I am a 'Clueless tosser'.

Because you actually think fans who follow smaller clubs are jealous of the big, successful clubs! I couldn't give a **** about them 'big and successful clubs' or the Prem for that matter. It's barely an English league, full of homosexual, pre-maddona's.

And before you say, "this is because you support ****ty Walsall, they'll never get to the prem". I couldn't care less.
 
Because you actually think fans who follow smaller clubs are jealous of the big, successful clubs! I couldn't give a **** about them 'big and successful clubs' or the Prem for that matter. It's barely an English league, full of homosexual, pre-maddona's.

And before you say, "this is because you support ****ty Walsall, they'll never get to the prem". I couldn't care less.

Fair enough. I have a season ticket for Cliftonville and you have probably never heard of them. Why do people care what team someone supports though? You can't say someone can't support a team because they don't live in the town or city they are from, how many generations the support goes back or even how many teams someone supports. It's all bollocks. Dev above probably got it right. Someone who changes teams because their team is not winning. That is the only plastic fan. Probably not even football fans, just support someone so they can talk football with people.
 
Because you actually think fans who follow smaller clubs are jealous of the big, successful clubs! I couldn't give a **** about them 'big and successful clubs' or the Prem for that matter. It's barely an English league, full of homosexual, pre-maddona's.

And before you say, "this is because you support ****ty Walsall, they'll never get to the prem". I couldn't care less.

Are you one of them quims who goes to watch England just so you can boo the players?
 
Because you actually think fans who follow smaller clubs are jealous of the big, successful clubs! I couldn't give a **** about them 'big and successful clubs' or the Prem for that matter. It's barely an English league, full of homosexual, pre-maddona's.

And before you say, "this is because you support ****ty Walsall, they'll never get to the prem". I couldn't care less.

which raises the point that dads etc have a big influence, you probably wouldn't "choose" Walsall as your team if you wanted to brag about such bollox as "We've won it 5 times" .. however you get those who probably feel inadequate about themselves so "support" Man U or Chelsea cos they've guaranteed blanket TV coverage and can enter into witless conversations about how much Ronaldo cost or how many goals Torres is going to score..

Fans (supporters, followers whatever..) of smaller clubs don't usually "choose" their team, it just happens.. you just "know".

and because we might not have much success, when we do win a game or get promoted or even unearth a class player then it means so much more.. because we aren't spoilt every week by 3-0 wins against the minnows of the PL..
 
Fair enough. I have a season ticket for Cliftonville and you have probably never heard of them. Why do people care what team someone supports though? You can't say someone can't support a team because they don't live in the town or city they are from, how many generations the support goes back or even how many teams someone supports. It's all bollocks. Dev above probably got it right. Someone who changes teams because their team is not winning. That is the only plastic fan. Probably not even football fans, just support someone so they can talk football with people.

Yes I've heard of Cliftonville. Don't know much about them (obviously) but I've heard of them.

It pisses me off because a lot (and I mean a lot!) of people around my area follow Man United (or United as they say) purely down to their success. Nothing else. I've even been asked why I support Walsall FC, in Walsall ffs! If a larger percentage of people in our large town actually supported Walsall FC, we might actually be a half decent football club...
 
easy, people who support the current top teams, chelsea or Man utd, and have absolutely no connection to the club or the town the club is representing (family connection or otherwise).

basically just so they can hav bragging rights whenever footballs brought up in conversation.

its a "my dads better than your dad" mentality.

....Though this is easy beaten once you question why they support the team.

Note: the exception to this rule I would say relates to when your a kid and first get into football, as a lot of young uns choose to support the top team at that time, thats ok in my book as thats when you get a real connection to club of your choice.

I really don't have the energy to read the 4 pages, but hey....

I don't! <devil> Started to follow City in the beginning of 2007 and have been faithful since, and will so be til the day I die :emoticon-0150-hands

Just finished my Liverpool report. Had to download the game and wait a few hours so I could watch my censored (I hard a hard telling who was who) City players play!

And write a report about it! Check it out ;)
http://www.svenskafans.com/england/Hull-City-AFC-Liverpool-FC-3-0-409997.aspx
It took some time, So you better read it even though you won't understand a word! <eek>

Best players (What I could tell)
1: Chester
2: Brady
3: McShane (Considering how he has played before)

Rosenior would normally get the third spot here, but always plays great, so I'l give McShane the spot today!