Off Topic Paris Attacks !

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They believe they are and all religion is open to scrutiny. There are so many different branches of the many different religions. They all believe they are performing the will of Allah.

Same with the BNP, they believe they represent Britain. We show them as a nation that we don't through education and distancing ourselves from their hate.

I suspect they already are, because Muslim parents want their children to live a a better world just as we do. That 1% (and its far lower than that, 160million would be game over) can't be beaten in battle. They won't listen to reason, they can't be bribed.

Education is the key.

The best result in May's general election was the Monster Raving Loony Party getting twice as many votes as the BNP - made me very proud to be part of such an electorate actually :-)
 
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This is another issue entirely. The sad fact is. Some simply don't want to integrate and would rather turn here into there.
There should be certain requirements you must have before being given British citizenship

Speaking English
Knowing the history of Britain
The skills / means to look after yourself

And of course a lot more before you can come and live here imo but no can't do that it's racist lol
 
The best result in May's general election was the Monster Raving Loony Party getting twice as many votes as the BNP - made me very proud to be part of such an electorate actually :)

That's a decade or more of people seeing the BNP for what they are.
 
The best result in May's general election was the Monster Raving Loony Party getting twice as many votes as the BNP - made me very proud to be part of such an electorate actually :)

I loved them when Sutch was still around. I voted for them in the late '80's as one of their cornerstone policies was that, if elected, they would launch an immediate investigation into why there was only one Monopolies Commission <laugh>
 
There should be certain requirements you must have before being given British citizenship

Speaking English
Knowing the history of Britain
The skills / means to look after yourself

And of course a lot more before you can come and live here imo but no can't do that it's racist lol

Nothing wrong with that. You would think those who come to live here would want the skills to get by. That includes the language, understanding of the laws and culture and basic history. We've all been abroad and had the awquared conversation with the shop keeper. Why would you want that if you were here to stay?
 
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Living in Spain, I know from experience that you make life more difficult for yourself by not bothering to learn at least how to get by in the language of the country you're living in.

Ultimately, it's your choice but you're just making your own life more complicated if you can't communicate.
 
Nothing will happen in this country, we will be forced to suck up to the peaceful religion or be jailed for upsetting them or you can go to war against them*






* not the nice one, just the 40% that want to kill us
 
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Nothing wrong with that. You would think those who come to live here would want the skills to get by. That includes the language, understanding of the laws and culture and basic history. We've all been abroad and had the awquared conversation with the shop keeper. Why would you want that if you were here to stay?

Yeh most normal people would say that's a fair set of requirements for anyone looking to live in any country imo. But fact is the political numpties in charge would never have the balls to make this happen as so not to come across as racist lol

The time for being nice and pleasing everyone is over. Get with the program or kindly **** off. Never going to happen though imo
 
This is another issue entirely. The sad fact is. Some simply don't want to integrate and would rather turn here into there.

Partly true. Dont forget the indigenous population also chooses to move out. The door swings both ways as they say and I think both sides are guilty of the same thing - finding comfort among ppl they can relate to. White, black, jews, muslims, Greeks, Turks... we all do it. You look at what's happened in the East End of London for 300 yrs and it's amazing how waves of immigrants have shaped tge ethic minorities that have settled and then moved on from there. The French were considered the muslims of today hundreds of yrs ago. Then the jews arrived. Now its tye Bengalis.

Btw the places Klopp mentioned in London are predominantly sikh as well. Southall in particular is heavily sikh not muslim although there are muslims there. Those misconceptions dont help either.
 
I don't know what the 911 fake plane theory is all about. I do know that our NY office was in the North Tower. Thankfully all of my colleagues survived but seeing a very real plane fly into a building had a long term impact on many, if not all, of them.


Sisu thinks all your colleagues are in the conspiracy to say that they saw a plane when they didn't.<ok>
 
Where I live, its predominantly Pakistani and Bangladeshi. The Bangladeshi are quite happy to integrate and be involved in the community, the Pakistani, not so much. This is changing though.

Ten years ago gangs of Pakistanis would attack Indian owned e businesses round here, a few miles down the road white and Muslim youths rioted in 2001. Its not like that now.
 
Ban sunglasses. You can't see their eyes. What colour are they? Where are they looking?

Ban hats they don't show what colour hair someone has. Or maybe they have a gun under their hat.
A hat and sunglasses are a far cry from head to toe covered up, besides last time I checked there wasn't a small faction of hat wearers looking to wipe the west/infidels off the face of the earth?
 
A hat and sunglasses are a far cry from head to toe covered up, besides last time I checked there wasn't a small faction of hat wearers looking to wipe the west/infidels off the face of the earth?



Dylann Roof was frequently pictured wearing sunglasses and a hat. The guy who shot up the cinema barman was playing in was wearing a hat.

I think the Sandy Hook shooter was wearing a cap too if I recall.

The Washington sniper and son had pictures wearing hat and sunglasses.


I haven't seen photos of the Paris killers but I'd be surprised if they were wearing a burkha.

Banning clothing has more to do with oppression than solving terrorism.
 
Ban sunglasses. You can't see their eyes. What colour are they? Where are they looking?

Ban hats they don't show what colour hair someone has. Or maybe they have a gun under their hat.

To be fair, those wearing sunglasses can take them off. They choose to wear them.

Its not always the case with a head scarf/burka is it?
 
Dylann Roof was frequently pictured wearing sunglasses and a hat. The guy who shot up the cinema barman was playing in was wearing a hat.

I think the Sandy Hook shooter was wearing a cap too if I recall.

The Washington sniper and son had pictures wearing hat and sunglasses.


I haven't seen photos of the Paris killers but I'd be surprised if they were wearing a burkha.

Banning clothing has more to do with oppression than solving terrorism.

They likely weren't but what about the terrorists who dressed as Muslims females in Israel not so long back? Or those who use the clothing to hide in plain site.

Hats and sun glasses only cover part of a face too, you can still make an ID from a partial face. You can't from no face.