Where I live, its predominantly Pakistani and Bangladeshi. The Bangladeshi are quite happy to integrate and be involved in the community, the Pakistani, not so much. This is changing though.
Ten years ago gangs of Pakistanis would attack Indian owned e businesses round here, a few miles down the road white and Muslim youths rioted in 2001. Its not like that now.

To be fair, those wearing sunglasses can take them off. They choose to wear them.
Its not always the case with a head scarf/burka is it?
They likely weren't but what about the terrorists who dressed as Muslims females in Israel not so long back? Or those who use the clothing to hide in plain site.
Hats and sun glasses only cover part of a face too, you can still make an ID from a partial face. You can't from no face.

Cmon ffs, I said nothing about banning a burka, although if it were a rule here I would welcome it, sorry but in England we are not Muslims historically, most people are sick of tip toeing around this issue now, spose that shows that letting people of other nations and faiths in willy nilly and then letting them or making it so that they stick to their own ok? sorry but that should no longer be an option, we are at war make no mistake. Things need to be done before we have full blown unrest in the UK. If I got to dubai and don't cover up I'm ****ed, why if you come here should you not respect our ways but instead throw the word racism about while idiotic politicians back you up. **** that ****.Dylann Roof was frequently pictured wearing sunglasses and a hat. The guy who shot up the cinema barman was playing in was wearing a hat.
I think the Sandy Hook shooter was wearing a cap too if I recall.
The Washington sniper and son had pictures wearing hat and sunglasses.
I haven't seen photos of the Paris killers but I'd be surprised if they were wearing a burkha.
Banning clothing has more to do with oppression than solving terrorism.
They likely weren't but what about the terrorists who dressed as Muslims females in Israel not so long back? Or those who use the clothing to hide in plain site.
And Milk, those wearing the Burka are oppressed. It dehumanises the women in Islam.
Exactly.
This has happened due to the PC brigade driven by beauts like @Treble calling racism at every mention of the fact that the Muslim community has a part to play in eradicating fundamentalism from our own communities
I agree with Milk. Personally I find the burka ridiculous, but each to their own.
I doubt wearing a burka makes any difference to terrorism. None of them are worried about hiding their identity when they commit these acts in western countries. And none of them are interested in escaping afterwards. What's the point if you're blowing yourself up![]()
Ahh wind it in you ****ing cretin.erm no, you're a scumbag bigot.
No one had claimed the attack in Paris and immediately you were bening on about Islam, what a ****ing ****** like.
You then proceeded to slate 1.8 billion Muslims with general brush strokes when islam is interpreted in MANY different ways by many different people "religion is from the stonage" I believe you said.
Most Muslims don't abuse their wives, make bombs and call for jihad.
You might say "well they don't like you insulting teir religion" which makes me laugh, how long to you think a satirical news paper would last in France if it had being doing cartoons about Judaism? A wet week, yet when it is Islam, it's freedom of speech.
I bet you are completely ignorant of Jewish terrorist groups and the littany of terror attacks globally this past century?
alleged Islamic terrorists kill 150 people, I say alleged because all there is is news reports and sadly ******s like you tak htem as fact, hence your bigoted views in Islam.
Do you know there is no book for Sharia law? None, it is interpreted. But why would your ignorant ass know that, you don't research anything you talk about. ever.
But us good Christians have killed 1.2 million Muslims and destroyed a country and the whole region causing millions more to lose their homes and traumatised an entire generation, plus absolutely making sure Extremism will persist because of the state our good Christians left the whole place in, and have been doing for several hundred years.
Who ****ing redrew the borders in the region GUARANTEED to cause conflict? You guessed it right a good Christian nation. Who mashed all the different tribes together, in the middle east, and Africa in Nigeria. Yes same good Christians.
Bottom line you bigots wont even consider is, if Britain was consistenty invaded and meddled in by Islam countries over hundreds of years ending in a bloodbath killing over a million, Christianity would have went hte exact same way as it has in the middle east with religion, there would be a "holy war" against these invading murdering islamic nations/
That's the ****ing truth, you historically ignorant bigots.
So because someone did we ban all of them?
There would be a whole lot of naked people if you ran the world of every time someone wore a particular item to commit a crime it became banned. The vast majority of people in burkas commited crimes.
Women in the west have the choice. There is no law saying women must wear them. Some societies and men force them to wear them. That's different. Many women in the west wear them by choice.
erm no, you're a scumbag bigot.
No one had claimed the attack in Paris and immediately you were bening on about Islam, what a ****ing ****** like.
You then proceeded to slate 1.8 billion Muslims with general brush strokes when islam is interpreted in MANY different ways by many different people "religion is from the stonage" I believe you said.
Most Muslims don't abuse their wives, make bombs and call for jihad.
You might say "well they don't like you insulting teir religion" which makes me laugh, how long to you think a satirical news paper would last in France if it had being doing cartoons about Judaism? A wet week, yet when it is Islam, it's freedom of speech.
I bet you are completely ignorant of Jewish terrorist groups and the littany of terror attacks globally this past century?
alleged Islamic terrorists kill 150 people, I say alleged because all there is is news reports and sadly ******s like you tak htem as fact, hence your bigoted views in Islam that already existed were given an outlet Daily Mail style
Do you know there is no book for Sharia law? None, it is interpreted. But why would your ignorant ass know that, you don't research anything you talk about. ever.
But us good Christians have killed 1.2 million Muslims and destroyed a country and the whole region causing millions more to lose their homes and traumatised an entire generation, plus absolutely making sure Extremism will persist because of the state our good Christians left the whole place in, and have been doing for several hundred years.
Who ****ing redrew the borders in the region GUARANTEED to cause conflict? You guessed it right a good Christian nation. Who mashed all the different tribes together, in the middle east, and Africa in Nigeria. Yes same good Christians.
Bottom line you bigots wont even consider is, if Britain was consistenty invaded and meddled in by Islamic countries over hundreds of years ending in a bloodbath killing over a million, Christianity would have went hte exact same way as it has in the middle east with religious interpretations, there would be a "holy war" against these invading murdering islamic nations.
religion is violent in a violent world, "we" created that environment and blame someone else when the result comes home to roost, yet given the atrocites over the decades, most Muslims are still peace lovng people who just want to get on with it. Bigots slate them all because they follow Islam.
Ironically, the most rational and reasonable person to post on this thread was a Muslim.
That's the ****ing truth, you historically ignorant bigots.
Ahh wind it in you ****ing cretin.
I never said anything that was even vaguely racist, I got lept on for saying that IS form part of the spectrum of Muslims and Islam, which is a fact. Whether many Muslims would even recognise them as being part of their religion is neither here nor there, the fact is that they act under its name, no matter how misguided their interpretation may be, that's also a fact.
I never even mentioned Sharia law you ranting moron
You're very naive if you think they are not forced to in the West. Regardless, its an act of oppression. Women in Islam are second class citizens, the fact a small number might accept this doesn't make it right.

alleged Islamic terrorists kill 150 people, I say alleged because all there is is news reports and sadly ******s like you tak htem as fact, hence your bigoted views in Islam that already existed were given an outlet Daily Mail style
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you just can't help yourself can you?I did not say racist, I aid bigot, maybe technically they are the same but I don't mean it as racism. I mean it as havin a fixed view on a group of people solely because of the more extreme versions of that religion.
Islam like Christianity and Judaism are not one religion, they are many. Take Talmud Jews and Fundamentalist Christians. They are the mirror of the more extreme islamic interpretations.
But it doesn't matter, using religion is a cop out. A man has a decidion to make, he is either going to commit violence or not, hate or not, be racist or not. Every man has that choice to make, claiming it is religion somehow absolves those who make violent decisions? Cos it was religion? Really?
No a man is responsible for his actions and if he interprets his religion as allowing him to kill, then that is his disposition driving his interpretation.
How take the 9 boys Obama massacred with a drone while they were collecting wood in pakistan. Consider one of those was your 7 yar old son.
Then consider that there is no recourse, no one will be helld accountable.. how exactly does that leave you.. what if two of the boys were your only sons? Gone, murdered. No chance of justice.
Now repeat that scenario for hundreds of thousands of families over 15 years in Iraq in a war based on what we know is not a conspiracy theory, Bush and Blair planned Iraq long before the UN were even done looking for WMD.. You tell me the net result of that?
For the love of ****ing god can you lot not put yourselves in someone elses shoes
What the **** do you think I've said?I did not say racist, I aaid bigot, maybe technically they are the same but I don't mean it as racism. I mean it as havin a fixed view on a group of people solely because of the more extreme versions of that religion.
Islam like Christianity and Judaism are not one religion, they are many. Take Talmud Jews and Fundamentalist Christians. They are the mirror of the more extreme islamic interpretations.
Christians commit more terrorist attacks than Muslims in the US, almost twice as many attacks.
Of course that little stat is irrelevant I guess in all of this Hysteria,
But it doesn't matter, using religion is a cop out. A man has a decidion to make, he is either going to commit violence or not, hate or not, be racist or not. Every man has that choice to make, claiming it is religion somehow absolves those who make violent decisions? Cos it was religion? Really?
No a man is responsible for his actions and if he interprets his religion as allowing him to kill, then that is his disposition driving his interpretation.
AS for causes..
take the 9 boys Obama massacred with a drone while they were collecting wood in pakistan. Consider one of those was your 7 year old son. If that was my kid, I'd want to slash Obama's throat from ear to ear
Then consider that there is no recourse, no one will be helld accountable.. how exactly does that leave you.. what if two of the boys were your only sons? Gone, murdered. No chance of justice.
Now repeat that scenario for hundreds of thousands of families over 15 years in Iraq in a war based on what we know is not a conspiracy theory, Bush and Blair planned Iraq long before the UN were even done looking for WMD.. You tell me the net result of that?
For the love of ****ing god can you lot not put yourselves in someone elses shoes