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Altrincham Tiger said:
But the Japanese eat raw fish and have the longest life expectancy in the world.
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They don't tend to eat raw fish from the North Atlantic.

Life expectancy depends on many factors. The levels of stomach and gastric cancer are much higher in Japan compared to the UK - I'm sure a fish diet and the higher salt and heavy metal levels that accompany it play a part.



ESSEX GULL
 
Greater Garbo said:
Sheeet The worm Info has put me off. I thought it was one of the last safest vestiges of safety in Britain, Food wise, Each year as I grow older , I navigate towards the " Chippy" for a Supper. Seems there are NO foods that are clean.
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Don't worry, what few there are, are taken out at the processing stage....
 
Greater Garbo said:
Sheeet The worm Info has put me off. I thought it was one of the last safest vestiges of safety in Britain, Food wise, Each year as I grow older , I navigate towards the " Chippy" for a Supper. Seems there are NO foods that are clean.
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The foods that are 'clean' will be pumped so full of vaccines and antibiotics that there will be far more danger overall.

As long as cooked properly, cod worms pose no threat. If you don't like the possibility of them being there when eaten, eat salted cod - which drives them away, although not sure you can get it easily in the UK.



ESSEX GULL
 
Essex Gull. I've just seen Peter Andre buying ' Lobster' in Iceland. I like Lobster. What's the problem there then?? Oh as an afterthought, I do wolf down those Tesco Seafood sticks. Boy are they Yummy.
 
Did anyone see that Movie today on telly called Leviathan. A non- dialogue film about Trawler fishing in the Atlantic, with scenes of Fish processing. Pretty good.
 
Greater Garbo said:
Did anyone see that Movie today on telly called Leviathan. A non- dialogue film about Trawler fishing in the Atlantic, with scenes of Fish processing. Pretty good.
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The whole fishing industry in England and Scotland will be over in the next couple of decades, unless the companies sharpen up fast - which is criminal considering the enormous increase in worldwide demand for protein and the enormous increase in size of companies such as Marine Harvest...meanwhile Findus is nearly bust and the last remaining processing plants in Grimsby are somehow losing money and staff year on year... bad British management, captain/owner mentalities and complete lack of successive government support has destroyed it.



ESSEX GULL
 
Greater Garbo said:
Essex Gull. I've just seen Peter Andre buying ' Lobster' in Iceland. I like Lobster. What's the problem there then?? Oh as an afterthought, I do wolf down those Tesco Seafood sticks. Boy are they Yummy.
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No idea who that is. White crab meat trumps lobster, in my opinion. I don't touch the brown though.



ESSEX GULL
 
I was chatting with a tawlerman in the Ol town pub, last weekend & * He said the franchise Deep sea trawlers today, with their 3 month fishing quota & refrigerated holds on board are ringing through to Hull & Grimsby when entering our waters. Telling the Fish houses of the size of their hold & price there hoping for. But the captain is getting offers far below , any expectants. So there turning the ships around and sailing to France & Italy etc to sell their whole cargo in 1 go. Then go back out again for another catch. They're selling to evry1 else but Hometown Hull.
 
Greater Garbo said:
I was chatting with a tawlerman in the Ol town pub, last weekend & * He said the franchise Deep sea trawlers today, with their 3 month fishing quota & refrigerated holds on board are ringing through to Hull & Grimsby when entering our waters. Telling the Fish houses of the size of their hold & price there hoping for. But the captain is getting offers far below , any expectants. So there turning the ships around and sailing to France & Italy etc to sell their whole cargo in 1 go. Then go back out again for another catch. They're selling to evry1 else but Hometown Hull.
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Well, France and Poland pretty much dominate fish processing in Europe now, so the majority of fish is sold to them (the value-added processors) who then sell on the completed product (filleted, packaged, frozen etc) onto retail.

Grimsby is the last of England's large processing areas - Youngs are still there, I believe, but if their management continues as it is, they'll be gone soon.

The biggest hope for the UK, was that Tesco would start up their own processing plant and cut out the middle man processors and not just be a retail purchaser in the fish market, but their recent problems have put an end to that.


ESSEX GULL
 
essexgull said:
Well, France and Poland pretty much dominate fish processing in Europe now, so the majority of fish is sold to them (the value-added processors) who then sell on the completed product (filleted, packaged, frozen etc) onto retail.

Grimsby is the last of England's large processing areas - Youngs are still there, I believe, but if their management continues as it is, they'll be gone soon.

The biggest hope for the UK, was that Tesco would start up their own processing plant and cut out the middle man processors and not just be a retail purchaser in the fish market, but their recent problems have put an end to that.


ESSEX GULL
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Are you in the fish business yourself?
 
essexgull said:
Well, France and Poland pretty much dominate fish processing in Europe now, so the majority of fish is sold to them (the value-added processors) who then sell on the completed product (filleted, packaged, frozen etc) onto retail.

Grimsby is the last of England's large processing areas - Youngs are still there, I believe, but if their management continues as it is, they'll be gone soon.

The biggest hope for the UK, was that Tesco would start up their own processing plant and cut out the middle man processors and not just be a retail purchaser in the fish market, but their recent problems have put an end to that.


ESSEX GULL
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You're Captain Birdseye and I claim my 5 pounds.
 
essexgull said:
Yes - the financial side of it and have picked up a sea-fishing habit over here.



ESSEX GULL
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OK, just interested, I used to have to come down to Billingsgate quiet often, and also play golf against the London crowd a couple of times a year, in the days when Fleetwood/Hull/Grimsby/Aberdeen etc used to play each other.
 
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Hang on I've just realised, you lot think Cod and Haddock are different breeds of fish, you should know that Haddock is the female and Cod is the male, take a look at the pictures they look nearly identical, dear oh dear

essexgull said:
This is completely incorrect.

Cod and haddock are in the same family but different species. Cod are easier to catch because they dwell in shallower waters generally.
They both suffer from worms (as are the same 'family'), so it's a myth that one is cleaner than the other.
I prefer cod as it's moister, I find haddock a little dry and flaky.
I find it surprising that even though you're an island nation, the UK tends to know very little about fish.

ESSEX GULL
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Harrah! Caught another fishy! I'm well good at this :smile:
 
John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
OK, just interested, I used to have to come down to Billingsgate quiet often, and also play golf against the London crowd a couple of times a year, in the days when Fleetwood/Hull/Grimsby/Aberdeen etc used to play each other.
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Ah, I'm the other side of the North Sea these days. Didn't know a thing about fish until I moved.


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Greater Garbo said:
Sheeet The worm Info has put me off. I thought it was one of the last safest vestiges of safety in Britain, Food wise, Each year as I grow older , I navigate towards the " Chippy" for a Supper. Seems there are NO foods that are clean.
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I always just eat the worms first like an entree
 
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