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An apology would be pointless.
If they want to change their behaviour then they can, and over time some of those people might who want them out now might change their minds. People judge behaviour not promises, particularly when the person has, in their mind, let them down before.
If they don’t want to then that’s up to them too.
They’ll stay as owners until they don’t want to be owners anymore.
Some people will go, some won’t
It’s just how it is
 
It shows a certain lack of worldliness if people expect a multi millionaire to feel the need to justify his actions to people, many of whom have expressed their contempt for him . (Talking Assem here not Ehab).. It;s just not going to happen, so park it and move on

Father and son are not football people, and do not share the same football template as most of us.

They have come in with business ideas and dare I say it cultural ideas a world away from, say, Adam Pearson.

You say this, but they've come in with business ideas that has (rightly or wrongly) driven away their paying customers.

Any savvy business person would have noted this and done things to rectify this situation. The customers (supporters) have decided they haven't done enough.

I agree with others that an apology by now won't have much effect, but the Allams could clearly do more to entice others back. They aren't doing enough, and that's their fault.

I don't expect them to have to justify their ideas to us, but at the same time they have to accept responsibility for not encouraging people back to the ground.
 
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You say this, but they've come in with business ideas that has (rightly or wrongly) driven away their paying customers.

Any savvy business person would have noted this and done things to rectify this situation. The customers (supporters) have decided they haven't done enough.

I agree with others that an apology by now won't have much effect, but the Allams could clearly do more to entice others back. They aren't doing enough, and that's their fault.

I don't expect them to have to justify their ideas to us, but at the same time they have to accept responsibility for not encouraging people back to the ground.
What like? WhT do you want to see?
We’ve got cheap tickets and concessions now
What else
 
What like? WhT do you want to see?
We’ve got cheap tickets and concessions now
What else

There’s so much they can do.

kids for a quid every so often. Fill up the ground and sell more food, get the younger generation nagging their parents to come back.

More nights like the Leeds legends night but for City fans.

Special signing events in the club shop or visiting parts of the community that might not usually come.

That’s just off the top of my head. Do you really think the club couldn’t be doing more to ingrain it in the wider City to boost appeal?

Id also argue that whilst the ticket prices are fairly decent, they could look more into whether it’s affordable enough in one of the poorer citys in the country after a decade or so of harder times.
 
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They haven't put in a penny for six years, you think if we get promoted this season, we'll see any sort of investment to challenge next season?

Not a chance.
We've got several players already that will hold their own in the Championship,if we go up why wouldn't they invest for a push back to the Premier League?

Allams a businessman and I don't know many that deliberately set out their stall to fail.
 
We've got several players already that will hold their own in the Championship,if we go up why wouldn't they invest for a push back to the Premier League?

Allams a businessman and I don't know many that deliberately set out their stall to fail.

Why didn't they in the previous three seasons?

I don't think their failures are deliberate.
 
There’s so much they can do.

kids for a quid every so often. Fill up the ground and sell more food, get the younger generation nagging their parents to come back.

More nights like the Leeds legends night but for City fans.

Special signing events in the club shop or visiting parts of the community that might not usually come.

That’s just off the top of my head. Do you really think the club couldn’t be doing more to ingrain it in the wider City to boost appeal?

Id also argue that whilst the ticket prices are fairly decent, they could look more into whether it’s affordable enough in one of the poorer citys in the country after a decade or so of harder times.
Kids for a quid is always a good idea
When we’re back in the ground
 
They had to try and make up for last season's debacle, I think you have to be extremely generous to now claim our owners are showing ambition.

If we go up, I think the target will be staying up, that's not my idea of ambition.
Ridiculous. They clearly have shown ambition this season
Let’s leave next season if and when we get promoted
 
They had to try and make up for last season's debacle, I think you have to be extremely generous to now claim our owners are showing ambition.

If we go up, I think the target will be staying up, that's not my idea of ambition.

I don't think it's generous to say they have been ambitious this season, it's clear they have. The reasons why they have or as you say had to are what they are....but it's ambition none the less, next season may well be a different kettle of fish. But realistically can we demand/expect ambition that would see us challenge in the champ and the investment that is needed for it, whilst we hope they drive down the debt/sell and piss off! You can't have both
 
I don't think it's generous to say they have been ambitious this season, it's clear they have. The reasons why they have or as you say had to are what they are....but it's ambition none the less, next season may well be a different kettle of fish. But realistically can we demand/expect ambition that would see us challenge in the champ and the investment that is needed for it, whilst we hope they drive down the debt/sell and piss off! You can't have both

I don't want both, I just want them gone.
 
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Why didn't they in the previous three seasons?

I don't think their failures are deliberate.
Prior to the sale of Bowen and Grosicki we were holding our own,the loss of them can still be argued but the remaining squad showed zero desire and zero balls,some of them walked away at a pivotal time,hence the reason we are where we are.

I didn't see any evidence of penny pinching when it came to players wages,they were paid Championship wages but failed to achieve Championship results,the players underachieved.
 
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Prior to the sale of Bowen and Grosicki we were holding our own,the loss of them can still be argued but the remaining squad showed zero desire and zero balls,some of them walked away at a pivotal time,hence the reason we are where we are.

I didn't see any evidence of penny pinching when it came to players wages,they were paid Championship wages but failed to achieve Championship results,the players underachieved.

I actually am not as angry about this as you might think, but we weren’t paying Championship level wages according to this image.

But that’s not necessarily a bad thing as Championship finances are nuts. But if the Allams have any sort of ambition, they are going to have to find a way to bring more money into the club.
 

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