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Urika Peece. said:
Promotion would help considerably ...????
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Let's hope so! I just recall that many have said, following each previous promotion, that it made the club a bit more desirable and likely to be sold. Others also said, following each relegation, that we would now be cheaper and more likely to be sold. I just so hope it is sold and soon!
 
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Large Elephant said:
Yes, but even Bates didn't do a lot of the stupid things that Allams did - such as introducing a membership scheme that charged Seniors and even the youngest of kids the full adult price. That drove so many fans away and many won't come back. We probably lost a generation of potential future fans too. But in any case - didn't L**ds support drop off quite significantly during that time? I'm sure I heard that the famous North stand was closed for several seasons.
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No, the Gelderd End wasn't shut.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Which is now reversed and cheap.
So what havent they done?
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As I said many fans won't come back - they have taken so much from the Allams and have had enough. I don't just mean the relatively recent fans or 'Premier League' fans I mean the long term fans who attended for decades. As I also said we have probably lost a generation of potential fans. Yes, I acknowledge that prices for many are better than previously but this really is a case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. When they have p****d off so many fans it is very difficult to win them back.
Oh, and did they ever ACTUALLY apologise? I know they admitted to the odd mistake - but did they apologise? And have they ever actually reached out to fans or the other stake holders that they fell out with?
 
Large Elephant said:
As I said many fans won't come back - they have taken so much from the Allams and have had enough. I don't just mean the relatively recent fans or 'Premier League' fans I mean the long term fans who attended for decades. As I also said we have probably lost a generation of potential fans. Yes, I acknowledge that prices for many are better than previously but this really is a case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. When they have p****d off so many fans it is very difficult to win them back.
Oh, and did they ever ACTUALLY apologise? I know they admitted to the odd mistake - but did they apologise? And have they ever actually reached out to fans or the other stake holders that they fell out with?
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I thought they had ?
But how heart felt or sincere I don’t know and I suppose no one will. so back to your original point
WhT else havent they reversed?
 
Large Elephant said:
As I said many fans won't come back - they have taken so much from the Allams and have had enough. I don't just mean the relatively recent fans or 'Premier League' fans I mean the long term fans who attended for decades. As I also said we have probably lost a generation of potential fans. Yes, I acknowledge that prices for many are better than previously but this really is a case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. When they have p****d off so many fans it is very difficult to win them back.
Oh, and did they ever ACTUALLY apologise? I know they admitted to the odd mistake - but did they apologise? And have they ever actually reached out to fans or the other stake holders that they fell out with?
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WTF is it with 'they must apologise' ****?

Move on it's not a primary school ffs
 
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Large Elephant said:
Apologies if I got the wrong stand. I certainly don't have your In depth knowledge of L**ds and the correct stand names.
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You were the one who said it was famous. Never noticed in the days when as an away fan behind the goal at Elland Road that you were in the South Stand? And what the opposite of South is?
 
Looks like the Allams might have to host vermin ridden events every couple of weeks?!

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City Man said:
WTF is it with 'they must apologise' ****?

Move on it's not a primary school ffs
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Yeah, I realise that you quite like the Allams and perhaps don't understand how they have decimated the support base. However a lot of people don't share your praise for them. They feel alienated and no longer feel a part of the club. They have been driven away. They want an apology. Some will not return until they get an apology (or until the Allams leave). I don't think it is unreasonable or too much to ask personally. However it takes a certain amount of strength and character in a person and for that reason I don't expect one will be given.
 
Large Elephant said:
Yeah, I realise that you quite like the Allams and perhaps don't understand how they have decimated the support base. However a lot of people don't share your praise for them. They feel alienated and no longer feel a part of the club. They have been driven away. They want an apology. Some will not return until they get an apology (or until the Allams leave). I don't think it is unreasonable or too much to ask personally. However it takes a certain amount of strength and character in a person and for that reason I don't expect one will be given.
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City Man quite likes the Allams? Sure. And be is a left leaning liberal as well...
 
Large Elephant said:
Yeah, I realise that you quite like the Allams and perhaps don't understand how they have decimated the support base. However a lot of people don't share your praise for them. They feel alienated and no longer feel a part of the club. They have been driven away. They want an apology. Some will not return until they get an apology (or until the Allams leave). I don't think it is unreasonable or too much to ask personally. However it takes a certain amount of strength and character in a person and for that reason I don't expect one will be given.
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Put like that , I'm still awaiting Martin Fish's apology, Buchanan & Hinchliffe's apology, Bryan Calam's apology and Darren Downs apology.
 
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