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Bum_Chinned_Crab said:
I'd guess about 20%, although to sure what the relevance is.

What were Bruce and Martinez's respective win ratios at Wigan?
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Martinez managed almost 3 times as many games for a win percentage only 4% less. For someone who took them progressively backwards he must have won the league in his first season!
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Martinez managed almost 3 times as many games for a win percentage only 4% less. For someone who took them progressively backwards he must have won the league in his first season!
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I dont know what this means. He did take them backwards, they finished lower under him every season.

I'll re-post this in case you missed my edit:

Let’s get a few stats out of the way nice and early. Martinez has a win percentage of just 26.77% at Wigan, winning only 34 of his 127 games in charge and losing 57. In his three seasons at the club, they have finished 16th, 16th and 15th finishing with 36, 42 and 43 points respectively.

It’s often made out that Martinez has done a great job of keeping the club in the Premier League, but the season before he took over, they finished 11th under Steve Bruce and 14th the year before that and the new Hull City boss boasts a significantly better win percentage of of 33.82% over 68 games, winning 23 games – not too far off Martinez’s total in almost half the amount of games.

Read more at http://www.footballfancast.com/foot...why-is-he-rated-so-highly#D3pCkGViighzzxrX.99
 
Bum_Chinned_Crab said:
I dont know what this means. He did take them backwards, they finished lower under him every season.

I'll re-post this in case you missed my edit:

Let’s get a few stats out of the way nice and early. Martinez has a win percentage of just 26.77% at Wigan, winning only 34 of his 127 games in charge and losing 57. In his three seasons at the club, they have finished 16th, 16th and 15th finishing with 36, 42 and 43 points respectively.

It’s often made out that Martinez has done a great job of keeping the club in the Premier League, but the season before he took over, they finished 11th under Steve Bruce and 14th the year before that and the new Hull City boss boasts a significantly better win percentage of of 33.82% over 68 games, winning 23 games – not too far off Martinez’s total in almost half the amount of games.

Read more at http://www.footballfancast.com/foot...why-is-he-rated-so-highly#D3pCkGViighzzxrX.99
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Not sure where you get that stat from, his win percentage is almost 30% with them. That likely includes all games, including Cups, like the one that he won for Wigan. You've quoted the correct Bruce % though, which is odd. One is clearly taking Cups into account but not the other.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Not sure where you get that stat from, his win percentage is almost 30% with them. That likely includes all games, including Cups, like the one that he won for Wigan. You've quoted the correct Bruce % though, which is odd. One is clearly taking Cups into account but not the other.
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Its from the article linked on my post. I thought that was obvious.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the new manager was given money to spend. The Allams did this with Barmby. He said he didn't have any, then suddenly there was loads to spend for Bruce. Same for Martinez?
 
Cortez91 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the new manager was given money to spend. The Allams did this with Barmby. He said he didn't have any, then suddenly there was loads to spend for Bruce. Same for Martinez?
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Any incoming manager would probably make it a condition.
 
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Of the managers available Martinez looks the best to me.
He is a Premier League manager unlike Colin, Evans and McLaren and he knows how to put an attacking team together. You could say he lacks defensive nous but this club is already set up well defensively and attack has been our Achilles heel for longer than I want to remember.

Also the technical standards he established at Swansea are a great credit to him and our passing game really does need an over-haul.
 
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Steve Bruce

At Wigan:
2007-08 8-8-8
2008-09 12-9-17
Win percentage 20/62 = 32%

At Hull City:
2013-14 10-7-21
2014-15 8-11-19
Win percentage 18/76 = 24%

Roberto Martinez
At Wigan Athletic:
2009-10 9-9-20
2010-11 9-15-14
2011-12 11-10-17
2012-13 9-9-20
Win percentage 38/152 = 25%

Premier League matches only.
 
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