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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by BrAdY, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    Martinez managed almost 3 times as many games for a win percentage only 4% less. For someone who took them progressively backwards he must have won the league in his first season!
     
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    I can't easily find it separated. It's 40.8% according to manager stats including the Championship.
     
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    I can't easily find it separated. It's 40.8% according to manager stats including the Championship.
     
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    I dont know what this means. He did take them backwards, they finished lower under him every season.

    I'll re-post this in case you missed my edit:

    Let’s get a few stats out of the way nice and early. Martinez has a win percentage of just 26.77% at Wigan, winning only 34 of his 127 games in charge and losing 57. In his three seasons at the club, they have finished 16th, 16th and 15th finishing with 36, 42 and 43 points respectively.

    It’s often made out that Martinez has done a great job of keeping the club in the Premier League, but the season before he took over, they finished 11th under Steve Bruce and 14th the year before that and the new Hull City boss boasts a significantly better win percentage of of 33.82% over 68 games, winning 23 games – not too far off Martinez’s total in almost half the amount of games.

    Read more at http://www.footballfancast.com/foot...why-is-he-rated-so-highly#D3pCkGViighzzxrX.99
     
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    Is Martinez under consideration?
     
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  6. SydneyTiger14

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    Not sure where you get that stat from, his win percentage is almost 30% with them. That likely includes all games, including Cups, like the one that he won for Wigan. You've quoted the correct Bruce % though, which is odd. One is clearly taking Cups into account but not the other.
     
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    He's being interviewed today.
     
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    Its from the article linked on my post. I thought that was obvious.
     
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    I must've missed that. Where's that info come from?

    Edit - backtracked a few pages and seen it.
     
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  10. SydneyTiger14

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    Those stats are incorrect. That was my point. I'm well aware you copy pasted it from an article.

    That article is clearly from before Martinez left Wigan.
     
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    A few different places, OLM seemingly confirmed it a few pages back.
     
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    Tobes- Everton fan.
     
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    Martinez was also the man responsible for setting Swansea up in the way that they play. His win ratio at Swansea was 50%.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if the new manager was given money to spend. The Allams did this with Barmby. He said he didn't have any, then suddenly there was loads to spend for Bruce. Same for Martinez?
     
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    Any incoming manager would probably make it a condition.
     
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    Steve Bruce's win% in the premier league for us was 23%
     
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    Of the managers available Martinez looks the best to me.
    He is a Premier League manager unlike Colin, Evans and McLaren and he knows how to put an attacking team together. You could say he lacks defensive nous but this club is already set up well defensively and attack has been our Achilles heel for longer than I want to remember.

    Also the technical standards he established at Swansea are a great credit to him and our passing game really does need an over-haul.
     
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    Why did you ask then?

    No matter which way you paint it, he did worse than Bruce did.
     
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  19. SydneyTiger14

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    Perhaps it would have been better to ask where the article got them from. Regardless, they're wrong.
     
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    Steve Bruce

    At Wigan:
    2007-08 8-8-8
    2008-09 12-9-17
    Win percentage 20/62 = 32%

    At Hull City:
    2013-14 10-7-21
    2014-15 8-11-19
    Win percentage 18/76 = 24%

    Roberto Martinez
    At Wigan Athletic:
    2009-10 9-9-20
    2010-11 9-15-14
    2011-12 11-10-17
    2012-13 9-9-20
    Win percentage 38/152 = 25%

    Premier League matches only.
     
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