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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by abournetiger, May 13, 2019.
Did you ever rate him as a manager ? Did your opinion change when he left ?
What about his record after us, did Elliott’s asthma effect that?
I’ve asked you to back up your statement.....I’ll assume other than Northampton you can’t
Clearly not. I made no reference to his record after us. You said that he struggled in the Championship with City, and I disagree. He made a poor choice in going to Palace - something he readily accepts now - but he was better in the second tier for us than you state.
Huddersfield and Swansea, they had Jon Stead and Lee Trundle respectively, who were great that season and big things were expected of them.
Taylor took us from the bottom of the Football League, to the second tier, a platform that ultimately led to us reaching the top tier, I can't understand why anyone would not be a fan. For me, it was the most enjoyable time to be a City fan, though the first Premier League season was obviously a bit good too.
I never said I wasn’t a fan, I just said with our budget he didn’t have a difficult job. And that he found his level
Any figures to show everyone except Northampton had less resources than we did in our 2 promotions under Taylor than we had? You haven’t. Anymore than anyone can know for a fact than anyone, including their grandmas, could have done what he did,
I think he would have struggled, with us and he then struggled after us
Have you got that in English please
We lost, but it felt like a win.
True. Though for ones a bit older or who were going then, 1965/1966 and 1970/1971 were good. 70/71 shades it for me as being 20 I had the money and time to have great weekends on away trips. Just a shame in those days our away support was so poor for the majority of games despite it being our highest league position for decades.
Have you got that I’m in English please
Is that English? Is it a question?
My take on the Taylor era (for what it's worth) - after Pearson came in, Peter Taylor was the first one to be able to handle the huge pressure and expectation that came with spending money and getting Hull City moving up through the leagues; he was fantastic for us and more than anything, he raised our profile from the joke club that it appeared to be, to one of a club that was finally on the up ...... he gave Hull City the momentum that helped propel us to the PL.
It was a shame how he left but, I don't understand how anyone could try to do his successes here down.
I’ve corrected it now so you can go back to answering the original question
When we were promoted to the Championship, only one side had a lower record transfer fee (spending) than us - Crewe. We were right at the bottom of the pile with regards to playing resources. So finishing a comfortable 18th was a pretty good effort (particularly given our bad luck with injuries, as previously documented).
We were among the bigger clubs regarding any resources in the fourth tier, though coping with that had been too much for Brian Little and Jan Molby, and being the team everyone wants to beat presents in itself a set of challenges that can be difficult to overcome. Taylor did an excellent job in tackling that.
In the third tier, we were not expected to go up by many, and we weren't really among the bigger hitters. Sheffield Wednesday and Bradford had been playing Premier League football not too long previous. Barnsley and Swindon had been doing not long before that. The likes of Bristol City, Bournemouth, Tranmere and Luton were well established at that level and considered to be upwardly mobile clubs. Barmby aside - who was a special case - and Wilbraham (who cost 100k, lest we forget), all the other signings that summer were frees or signed for low fees. From memory most City fans I knew were hoping we could stay somewhere in touch with the play-offs. To gain promotion so comfortably was an excellent achievement.
There's no way of knowing how Taylor would have fared in the 2006/07 season had he stayed with City. I think we'd have improved slightly, finishing slightly higher in mid-table. It's pointless arguing over though.
I'd forgotten that the reason Taylor didn't get the Charlton gig, was that they gave it to Iain Dowie instead.
Which backs up my point even better than I could
We had some luck along the way. There's no denying we collected some absolutely wonderful players. Ashbee , Dawson, Myhill, France.
There was a collective team spirit. We had a great feeling in the dressing room and a great feeling amongst the fans.
We were on a high and that ball never stopped rolling until we finally reached 'The Promised Land'.
Adam Pearson was the man that started that ball rolling and he kept it rolling until he ran out of help.
Phil Brown was our greatest ever manager.
Big jan signed Ashbee...just saying