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[Sir_Red]

In all seriousness I think talk of sacking him is a bit too soon and frankly is short sighted. He's dug himself a hole, he at least deserves to Christmas to get himself out of it

 

[Diver-rat]

Hes doing just as bad as rodgers anyway. His stocks way down right now (may have improved since i last checked mind).

Dont take this the wrong way but i bet you go for koeman. Nothing to do with the tranfers either. I find liverpool are always chasing the next big thing.

klopp is engineering his exit, his teams been sold out form under him twice at least.

I doubt we'd be cheeky enough to go for koeman but who knows. your theory is as good as any on this.

I can see us doing this.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

In all seriousness I think talk of sacking him is a bit too soon and frankly is short sighted. He's dug himself a hole, he at least deserves to Christmas to get himself out of it

why?

3 good reasons please.

 

[RogerisontheHunt]

In all seriousness I think talk of sacking him is a bit too soon and frankly is short sighted. He's dug himself a hole, he at least deserves to Christmas to get himself out of it

The two CL games will be the key. Lose both and that could be the end of him. Weirdly lose both and the league form could recover, back to last season with having a full week to prepare, being able to play a full strength and consistent team every week and no European distraction.

 

[Sir_Red]

why?

3 good reasons please.

1) last season was the best I have ever seen us play. Ever.

2) he's young, in manager terms, just like young players should be given time so should Rodgers. He's showed his potential last year.

3) we are kopites, we show more loyalty than fickle plastic armchair fans

 

[Flappy Flanagan (JK)]

The owners want a young manager, hence why they went with Rodgers to begin with. The idea of having a manager that will be there for a long time and build team after team.
Granted it doesn't always work, the younger manager doesn't have the experience or tactical nous that the older ones will have, but for every younger man their is always a Woy who's been around the block and is still s**t.

I like the idea of a young manager, but maybe we went to young. Rodgers was 39 when he took over.

Benitez was 45 when he became our manager. Thats only 6 years older but those 6 years were enough for him to gain top level experience with Valencia. Benitez and Rodgers actually have very similar stories. Both retired early through injury and started of coaching kids, over the next 15 years or so they both moved up through the levels, eventually coaching at adult senior level.

Here is Benitez senior career up to joining us:

1993–1995 Real Madrid B
1995–1996 Valladolid
1996 Osasuna
1997–1999 Extremadura
2000–2001 Tenerife
2001–2004 Valencia
2004–2010 Liverpool

I guess Tenerife were Rafa's Swansea, so maybe we are Rodgers Valencia. But my point here is that those extra years before Rafa joined us are the years that made him as a manager. If we want a young manager maybe we should look for another manager in Rafa's position. Mid 40's with a few years of top level experience instead of being the managers first top level club.

 

[Treble]

The owners want a young manager, hence why they went with Rodgers to begin with. The idea of having a manager that will be there for a long time and build team after team.
Granted it doesn't always work, the younger manager doesn't have the experience or tactical nous that the older ones will have, but for every younger man their is always a Woy who's been around the block and is still ****.

Ofcourse but it's more likely you'll detect the Ancelotti from a Hodgson, then you can a Mourinho from an AVB. Looking around, the league seems to be scattered with young failures. I also believe you can get at least 5 years, if not 10 years out of Bielsa. In this day and age I think the idea of having a manager long term is extremely unlikely. All you can do is build upon an good foundation and Bielsa will give you that.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

NO get a real manager and a technical director too.

In fact what i'd do is immediately appoint a technical director and tell rodgers if he doesn't like it he can start thumbing down the road.

 

[UnitedinRed]

If arsenal sacked wenger would you take him for 2 or 3 years?

 

[Stan]

Gerrard player manager surely?

Hasn't he actually been the player manager since Hodgson left?

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

eeeh... no and they won't sack him. the guys on sunday supplement this morning are right it'll take wenger to walk away next summer for arsenal to change.

 

[RogerisontheHunt]

If arsenal sackes wenger would you take him for 2 or 3 years?

No Wenger is out of date. His transfer record isn't much better than Rodgers, only that Wenger actually refuses to buy players.

Ofcourse but it's more likely you'll detect the Ancelotti from a Hodgson, then you can a Mourinho from an AVB. Looking around, the league seems to be scattered with young failures. I also believe you can get at least 5 years, if not 10 years out of Bielsa. In this day and age I think the idea of having a manager long term is extremely unlikely. All you can do is build upon an good foundation and Bielsa will give you that.

Not saying Bielsa couldn't do the job, do Bilbao still have the stupid Spanish only rule?

But its much more likely FSG will want another young manager, cause that is their way of thinking.

 

[UnitedinRed]

No Wenger is out of date. His transfer record isn't much better than Rodgers, only that Wenger actually refuses to buy players.

Not saying Bielsa couldn't do the job, do Bilbao still have the stupid Spanish only rule?

But its much more likely FSG will want another young manager, cause that is their way of thinking.

Hes picked up some decent players along the way. Recently hes added ozil and sanchez so his name carries weight with players.


Reckon hes got another job in him. Maybe away from the premier league but hes possibly one of the best options around. Of arsenal fans get their wish.

Rodgers to arsenal and wenger to liverpool.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

nah what you need is a longer term technical director and a 3 year 1st team coach mentality. IF you offer a bright young manager three years off a reasonable foundation to acheive before moving on these days thats what they want.

 

[Flappy Flanagan (JK)]

Hes picked up some decent players along the way. Recently hes added ozil and sanchez so his name carries weight with players.


Reckon hes got another job in him. Maybe away from the premier league but hes possibly one of the best options around. Of arsenal fans get their wish.

Rodgers to arsenal and wenger to liverpool.

I'd actually like Wenger to manage England.

 

[Treble]

No Wenger is out of date. His transfer record isn't much better than Rodgers, only that Wenger actually refuses to buy players.

Not saying Bielsa couldn't do the job, do Bilbao still have the stupid Spanish only rule?

But its much more likely FSG will want another young manager, cause that is their way of thinking.

What do you mean stupid and iirc it's actually local basque players. Isn't that what you guys keep going on about, how the ethos is develop youngsters. Should be right up your street. I admire Bilbao for that. Not just bcos they develop local youngsters BUT the fact very few if any actually ever WANT to leave. Loyalty to the club is ****ing religious. I think Llorente and Martinez have been the only recent exceptions under unusual circumstances tbf.

If it's FSG's plans it rules out a lot of good managers and requires a lot of risk taking tbh.

 

[UnitedinRed]

What do you mean stupid and iirc it's actually local basque players. Isn't that what you guys keep going on about, how the ethos is develop youngsters. Should be right up your street. I admire Bilbao for that. Not just bcos they develop local youngsters BUT the fact very few if any actually ever WANT to leave. Loyalty to the club is ****ing religious. I think Llorente and Martinez have been the only recent exceptions under unusual circumstances tbf.

If it's FSG's plans it rules out a lot of good managers and requires a lot of risk taking tbh.

You think? theres one more.

 

[C19RK73]

f**ing hell, lmao

never in my nash have i read such a deluded thread

- hanibal = s**te

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

I rate klopp but hes obviously struggling now so hes not the Messiah. My point is his stock is down now so i dont think he would be a good fit.

I'm not saying he would or wouldn't be a good fit but he has rebuilt Dortmund a couple of times and he is probably as big a name as we could get, plus a name that would attract players to join too.

Anyway, Brod is our manager and whilst he's still in post he will get my support despite my moaning at his selections and tactics

 

[C19RK73]

I'm not saying he would or wouldn't be a good fit but he has rebuilt Dortmund a couple of times and he is probably as big a name as we could get, plus a name that would attract players to join too.

Anyway, Brod is our manager and whilst he's still in post he will get my support despite my moaning at his selections and tactics

Klopp? ffs mate, do you think he would go to Sunderland?