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How old is your lad? Obviously I might be misreading your post but I'm assuming he is young enough to not have seen Keane as our manager and deffo not as a player. Did he see much of Defoe as a player?

Just asking as it sounds like he was excited and buzzing cause his old man was? Unfortunately as an adult supporting SAFC that is hard to keep going :biggrin:.

I have mentioned before I am married to a scouser and live in Liverpool and my little lad 6 shows some interest in SAFC cause I do but I can't see it lasting as he gets older and his mates and his Mum's (I'm allowed to use that word as that's what she is called to him being brought up here <laugh>) side of the family bar the odd Everton support a team that win a trophy every few years and have had no hard times in the last few decades (despite what the fans think when you listen to them, oh it's so **** we didn't finish in the top three this team is **** we didn't win this week<doh>)

He's 7 mate but is footy daft watches all sorts of **** on YouTube (should add old footy **** not just random stuff haha) and plays as a striker himself so he knew about Defoe....and you're probably right it was my buzz rubbing off on him for Keane :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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He's 7 mate but is footy daft watches all sorts of **** on YouTube (should add old footy **** not just random stuff haha) and plays as a striker himself so he knew about Defoe....and you're probably right it was my buzz rubbing off on him for Keane :emoticon-0102-bigsm

I must admit my little lad isn't that into football, but that's down to me I reckon.

As I'm absolutely raging at the fact I could have no arguments with him supporting one of the best team in the country or world as they are his local team and all his other side of the family support them. I hate any team having any success that isn't us.

I really dislike Liverpool as I have to listen to their fans (family included in that) talk about (until recently) not seeing your team win the Premier league be some big tragedy. Whilst at a similar age I have watched and followed this ****e!
 
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You know what mate, there are two clubs, one finished 13th last year and another finished 20th, both appointed young coaches and not your run of the mill, easy to go to, failed out of work managers. Both those clubs are currently above us, then take into account the guy at Blackpool. There is a world of young up and coming managers, coaches that i wouldn't expect supporters to know. However I would expect a Sporting Director doing the correct process would be well aware of them
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WHO IS ALEX NEIL?

The former Norwich manager has been out of work for several months after leaving Preston North End in March 2021. He joined Preston in 2017 when a certain Simon Grayson left to join us. It’s safe to say we don’t have the best track record of signing former Preston managers.

Neil left Preston by mutual consent and left the club in an underwhelming 16th. He is now the favourite for our vacant job, which is really underwhelming news. The appointment of Roy Keane would’ve been a risk, but an exciting one. Now we take a risk on a different calibre of manager – another unremarkable British manager. This means it would be an entirely fresh approach from the last five appointm... oh wait, no it wouldn’t be.

Neil began his short managerial career as Hamilton Academical where he had already been involved in coaching the club's youth team. He was appointed player-manager on an interim basis, but this was made permanent in May 2013, when Neill was just 31. Assisted by Frankie McAvoy, Neil led the club to promotion back to the top flight in his first full season, winning through the play-off system in May 2014. Hamilton then enjoyed a good start to the 2014–15 Scottish Premiership, defeating Celtic away for the first time in 76 years, before Neill was approached by Norwich in 2015.

At 33, Neil was the second youngest manager in the Football League. A bold appointment from the Canaries, it initially proved a masterstroke. In his first game his team beat league leaders Bournemouth 2-1 only a day after taking charge. This immediate impact will be something absolutely necessary for us, should he be made Sunderland manager. He won 17 of his 25 games in his first season and Norwich secured a play-off place, finishing third. In British football’s fiercest rivalry, the East Anglia derby, Norwich beat Ipswich Town 4–2 on aggregate over two legs to get through the final. On 25 May, Neil led Norwich to a 2–0 victory over Middlesbrough in the 2015 Football League Championship play-off Final.

It has been downhill for Neil ever since this high. Norwich were poor all season and immediately suffered relegation back to the Championship. Neil had his contract terminated in March 2017. Norwich had won only seven of their last 24 games in The Championship and were nine points outside the top six play-off places. They were 8th. He then joined Preston, where he spent four anonymous years in charge, where he did nothing to bolster his reputation in football management.

Misery, anger and confusion are likely to arise if he gets the job. If Speakman trusts this man to take us up rather than Keane, it is his funeral. Neil has done nothing in 5 or 6 years to warrant this job and one spell of good form with Norwich is not enough to suggest he is the man to take us up this year. I was no Johnson fan, but swapping him for Neill would be absolutely baffling. Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to amateur hour.
Well thought of by Preston fans it seems.

Plays attacking. High press. Etc.

Has been promoted through playoffs twice.

Apparently undone because the board sold his best players.

You can spin it however you want, but he's better than McCann for me like.
 
Well thought of by Preston fans it seems.

Plays attacking. High press. Etc.

Has been promoted through playoffs twice.

Apparently undone because the board sold his best players.

You can spin it however you want, but he's better than McCann for me like.

I’d be surprised if you found a single Sunderland fan to disagree with that.

McCann would be a shocking appointment.
 
Well thought of by Preston fans it seems.

Plays attacking. High press. Etc.

Has been promoted through playoffs twice.

Apparently undone because the board sold his best players.

You can spin it however you want, but he's better than McCann for me like.
My best mate PNE supporter just text me that virtually word for word, sold his best players and replaced them with dross.
 
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"Alex Neil would be a great appointment for you. He was probably one of the most tactially astute managers in the league, he would often change systems pre and mid game in order to combat the other teams strength. We was one of the best pressing teams in league under him.
He developed our young players and improved them into much better players. Ultimately he was let down from the owner, our top goal scorer sold in January when we went on to finish 1 point outside of the players. He got us competing with one of the smallest budgets in the league. If he had been backed properly then he’d still be with us and we’d be doing a lot better."

From a Preston fan over the road in that dark shadowy place.....
 
I must admit my little lad isn't that into football, but that's down to me I reckon.

As I'm absolutely raging at the fact I could have no arguments with him supporting one of the best team in the country or world as they are his local team and all his other side of the family support them. I hate any team having any success that isn't us.

I really dislike Liverpool as I have to listen to their fans (family included in that) talk about (until recently) not seeing your team win the Premier league be some big tragedy. Whilst at a similar age I have watched and followed this ****e!

Aye I get your point mate, living down here it's when Arsenal fans start going on about how hard done by they are...ended up in many a row with them
 
Plays attacking. High press. Etc.


Problem for our new manager.

Too soft, no defence, no keeper, and a bunch of slackers who would prefer to remain in D1.

And little money to spend, and the window has closed.

As opposed to sacking LJ Xmas pre window etc.
 
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Just as we're all starting to accept Keane isn't coming and maybe getting our heads around Alex Neil as a possible alternative, the club will swoop in and take a massive dump on us my appointing Grant ****ing McCann
It’s the Sunderland tradition.
 
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Problem for our new manager.

Too soft, no defence, no keeper, and a bunch of slackers who would prefer to remain in D1.

And little money to spend, and the window has closed.

As opposed to sacking LJ Xmas pre window etc.
Recuitment isn't the Head Coach's job so it's unlikely to have made much difference to the January window mate.

I agree there are problems with the squad, although 'prefer to remain in D1' is just overly emotional bullshit like sorry. Their confidence is shot to bits. They need reorganising and motivating.

Neil apparently had an immediate impact at Norwich and Preston. Give the Roker Report interview with a Preston fan a read. Sounds pormising.
 
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I'm as p****d off as anybody as 11 days is just not professional and in fact damaging us in the process. However i'm not going to judge either side until we get some facts. Maybe Keane needed to get his support staff out of secure jobs and, it was proving impossible and we waited to gave him the time to build that team until it was clear we weren't going to sort it before Saturday .Its not clear of its the clubs fault right now.