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Some good bits from Curtis.

"It's trying to be dominant on the ball and recognising we want to play out from the back," Davies told Hull Live, after admitting his delight at seeing Rosenior secure the City job. "We'll try and play from the goalkeeping into the two centre-half. Then it's recognising that when we need to abort, where can we play the pass, where is the space?

"Where can we find a certain player? Rather than just say we're going to lump it and hope someone wins the header - if you've got a dominant centre-half, that's not going to work - we liked to keep the ball and dominate teams that way.

"What we found when teams pressed it would sometimes work in our favour, and if they weren't organised because some teams overdid it and went in all guns blazing, and there were those teams who sat off then all of a sudden you're sat in the opposition half and you're dominating the ball.

"Either way, it's about dominating the ball but within that structure. Everyone knows where everyone should be. So if I'm the centre-half, I know where the number 10 should drop in this situation.

"If I'm the left winger then I know where I need to move to make the space for the centre midfielder to get in, it's all cogs that work in one movement."

"It comes after training - of course, it's not done overnight - it will become automatic. We were in a solid structure where you can almost play passes blind, also if we break down, we've got people in positions to win the ball back to counter-press and sustain an attack, especially if teams are going to press onto you.

"If teams do what I call the headless chicken and just go, then you know there's going to be a lot of space somewhere and that's what we worked on, exploiting and sucking a team onto us, and then when they've gone for their press, where's the space now and then exploiting that space.

"It's something I really enjoyed doing and playing. Rosie says he's going to take responsibility for that. As players, you have to judge the risk versus reward, but Liam wants players to be brave and take risks, that's what's going to make the style work.

"If players don't take risks, go safe and start kicking the ball long then it won't. Ultimately, it's trusting in him and the way he wants to do things - the attacking players will get great success in it.

"You've got players that take things on board really quickly and some that have unbelievable talent but struggle to take it on board because things just come quite naturally to them ion what they do, so sometimes giving instructions isn't easy to take, so what Liam does is ultimately dumbs it down and walks through it that often on a training pitch so everybody knows their roles.

"He will tweak it slightly differently for different setups if you're playing against a five at the back or two up top, the mainstay will always be that we're going to try and play and dominate the ball."

"What I will say about Rosie is even though he's a young manager, he's been planning for this for years. This has been ten years in the making," Davies continued.

"I'm not saying at 29 he knew that he wanted to play this style and have the blueprint for it, but over the years he's definitely had (a plan) of this is how I'm going to do it and these are the people I'm going to get.

"Now he's arrived at being a manager, he trusts a way of playing and hopefully he'll get the best out of it. It's not an overnight thing where people will think it's a young manager wanting to play modern football but doesn't actually know how to win a game of football.

"I guarantee you it's not a thing where he thinks I'm going to do this because I should, this is something he's thought about for years and has fine-tuned it."

"Rightly or wrongly, we played it last year at Derby with Wayne at the helm but Rosie was the lead coach on it all. We had relative success with it with the squad we had," he said.

"I know we ended up going down with the points deduction and stuff like that, but we were able to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Bournemouth, the Fulhams and West Brom, Sheffield United.

"I think our record against the top six was better than against the bottom six, you're going to be able to go toe-to-toe with some of the big teams, and with all due respect, the Championship this year is nowhere near as strong as it was last year.

"I think it's anyone's, this year. I'm not saying get carried away by any means, but if you do put a run together the league is so tight that if you can win three in a row you can find yourselves going from near the bottom to just outside the playoffs and that's the kind of guidance every team in the league should be taking.

"With Rosie's fresh pair of eyes, he'll be looking at it that way, too."
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I was one for giving Dawson more time, but I’ve been very impressed with Rosie from his one game and his press conferences. From what the players are saying, it seems he really made an impression and a difference in just his first two days of training. That’s clear from what Baxter says in the reaction video to Millwall (and it seemed evident from the better defensive performance in the actual game too). Baxter himself comes across very well also.
 
tigermaul said:
I was one for giving Dawson more time, but I’ve been very impressed with Rosie from his one game and his press conferences. From what the players are saying, it seems he really made an impression and a difference in just his first two days of training. That’s clear from what Baxter says in the reaction video to Millwall (and it seemed evident from the better defensive performance in the actual game too). Baxter himself comes across very well also.
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Really interesting comment from Baxter on first classroom meeting. More like an elite manager meeting which he had experienced at Chelsea.
 
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Tigerite said:
Some good bits from Curtis.
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Good, reassuring read,
Tbh though, isn't that pretty much what nearly every team is trying to do these days (with little tweaks to suit their strengths etc)?
Having said that, something did look / feel a little different yesterday, even though he'd only had one or two training sessions with them. At the back it seemed at times like the keeper became an extra player rather than just an exit route if there was no other option (we are not the only team to do that though). Maybe it was just that we were that little bit better organised, maybe the instructions (even in that short space of time) were clearer than previously (even than under Daws), maybe it was that Millwall weren't very good on the day (yep, I know, another one - but they looked bang average at best).
Keys going forward included that we finally have a new manager in place who has clear ideas, who can communicate them very clearly, and who hopefully will have time to implement them fully so that, as Curtis alludes to, it becomes fully ingrained / second nature to the players and we become an extremely well organised team with everyone knowing exactly what they should be doing, where they should be, etc. We've been missing that. A squad of largely average players then can outperform versus better but less organised players. You see it in the best teams where, as Curtis says, you can almost play blind passes as you know exactly where your team mates are going to be.
The WC break is valuable for all teams but is absolutely massive for us given we now have Rosie and his team just come in. As is January where we need that small handful of smart signings to turn us into a team capable of challenging the top.
(all probably stating the obvious!)
 
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Newland Tiger said:
Interesting comments from Baxter about players been clear about their roles,
this after 2 days with the new manager. It does make me wonder just how bad the
communication and understanding between Shota and the players actually was.

Already a vast improvement , actually looking forward to the rest of the season now.
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I wondered about this too…..wtf were they doing before???
This is the absolute basics of football, not some new radical approach
 
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Newland Tiger said:
Interesting comments from Baxter about players been clear about their roles,
this after 2 days with the new manager. It does make me wonder just how bad the
communication and understanding between Shota and the players actually was.

Already a vast improvement , actually looking forward to the rest of the season now.
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It’s just a sound bite all players say when the new manager comes in
I’m sure if you went back to the beginning of Shotas reign a player would say the exact same thing
 
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John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
Your getting more cynical the older you get <laugh>
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Chazz veers cartoonishly between 100% cynical and 100% trusting depending on the topic/person being discussed.

Conspiracy theorists and Allams get trusting Chazz. Acun very much gets Cynical Chazz, as did Adam Pearson.

Curious judge of character.
 
PLT said:
Chazz veers cartoonishly between 100% cynical and 100% trusting depending on the topic/person being discussed.

Conspiracy theorists and Allams get trusting Chazz. Acun very much gets Cynical Chazz, as did Adam Pearson.

Curious judge of character.
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Yawn

there you go a nice easy one

“Tom Huddlestone is relishing his message. Sidelined and apparently disillusioned under Phelan, the former Tottenham Hotspur midfielder appears a principal beneficiary of the regime change. “The new manager’s been on the training pitch every day, putting a lot of tactical information into us,” he says.

“Wherever the ball is on the pitch and whatever system we play we know exactly what is and what isn’t required of us, with and without the ball. With the amount of information he’s put into us there’s no excuses. If you don’t do well now it’s down to a loss of concentration because we know exactly where he wants us to be and when”.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Yawn

there you go a nice easy one

“Tom Huddlestone is relishing his message. Sidelined and apparently disillusioned under Phelan, the former Tottenham Hotspur midfielder appears a principal beneficiary of the regime change. “The new manager’s been on the training pitch every day, putting a lot of tactical information into us,” he says.

“Wherever the ball is on the pitch and whatever system we play we know exactly what is and what isn’t required of us, with and without the ball. With the amount of information he’s put into us there’s no excuses. If you don’t do well now it’s down to a loss of concentration because we know exactly where he wants us to be and when”.
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plus there's a common cliche of a new manager bounce
makes sense

something new excites the subconcious and makes you try harder
gotta impress
like getting a new relationship

question is
will it work in longer term outside of the honeymoon period?
i hope it does
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Yawn

there you go a nice easy one

“Tom Huddlestone is relishing his message. Sidelined and apparently disillusioned under Phelan, the former Tottenham Hotspur midfielder appears a principal beneficiary of the regime change. “The new manager’s been on the training pitch every day, putting a lot of tactical information into us,” he says.

“Wherever the ball is on the pitch and whatever system we play we know exactly what is and what isn’t required of us, with and without the ball. With the amount of information he’s put into us there’s no excuses. If you don’t do well now it’s down to a loss of concentration because we know exactly where he wants us to be and when”.
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Yes but did any player actually say that with Shota? That was the question.
 
Tomori from 2017
It's been a brilliant week. From my point of view the attitude from the players has been spot on and we’ve being able to work on a lot of things on the training ground. The big thing for me though is that there are good people at this Club."

"Everyone has roles and responsibilities and that’s important. We’ve done a defensive training session on the grass this week, but we need more clean sheets. That was the negative from last weekend. But it’s the whole team that need to contribute


I’m flattered posters seem to think I have an effect on what happens tho


Players say ****e like that as they don’t want to make out it’s their fault

as big Ron always said
Players win you things but they also get you the sack!!

i hope Liam does well but the fella is a media pro he loved it at Brighton he loved it here he loved it at derby

it all means **** all to me

he’s a completely inexperienced coach
We have a weird squad that’s terribly unbalanced
It’s a big job for anyone especially an inexperience coach

we still don’t know who was responsible for recruitment in the summer, not that I expect to, do we know if he will have a say in January??

I’ll just give my opinion and keep going to games no matter what division we are in
 
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