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I’m hoping that Stockdale comes in with fresh eyes, sees things & has ideas in what to do.
I think our game has improved under Dawson, we’re just lacking that bit of ability to get behind the other team.
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
You simultaneously say players will be easy to be on as they aren't on big money and say that moving them on will free up funds?!
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I don't get what you fail to understand. If you offload 4 players on £3k a week, that's £12k a week saved. That's one decent defender. We've already got money in the pot, as proven from January, that should be the defensive midfielder sorted so we probably need funds for one more defender.

I don't think we're as close to the FFP line as Acun is making out but with a bit of wheeling and dealing can find a suitable resolution even if we are
 
brownbagtiger said:
That's the opening position for a negotiation! What he and Burnley achieved over a decade is something to be proud of. Whether he wants to do it again, or whether the style of football meets Acun's dreams is another matter entirely.
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No he thinks he'll get a PL job as well as not really being suited to Acun's dream of flowing attacking football, and he'd be unlikely to want to work as a 'head coach' as opposed to manager.

Even if he were prepared to drop down (I'm sure Brum and Boro will have tried) it's a non starter as far as I can see.
 
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Shark Sports said:
I don't get what you fail to understand. If you offload 4 players on £3k a week, that's £12k a week saved. That's one decent defender. We've already got money in the pot, as proven from January, that should be the defensive midfielder sorted so we probably need funds for one more defender.

I don't think we're as close to the FFP line as Acun is making out but with a bit of wheeling and dealing can find a suitable resolution even if we are
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1 or 2 key addiditions is surely possible. Even if we need to do a bit of juggling. We have 3 or 4 seniors without squad numbers you'd assume would be available.
 
Shark Sports said:
I don't get what you fail to understand. If you offload 4 players on £3k a week, that's £12k a week saved. That's one decent defender. We've already got money in the pot, as proven from January, that should be the defensive midfielder sorted so we probably need funds for one more defender.

I don't think we're as close to the FFP line as Acun is making out but with a bit of wheeling and dealing can find a suitable resolution even if we are
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One whole decent defender?? That's so close to your 'plenty of defenders' you claim we'll sign. :)
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
One whole decent defender?? That's so close to your 'plenty of defenders' you claim we'll sign. :)
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After this summer I'd probably argue that more wholesale changes could do more harm than good. 1 or 2 is a reasonable expectation. If they're in the right areas ie offering balance to that midfield then with returning players I don't see the need for huge turnover again in Jan.
 
Mckechnie Orange said:
After this summer I'd probably argue that more wholesale changes could do more harm than good. 1 or 2 is a reasonable expectation. If they're in the right areas ie offering balance to that midfield then with returning players I don't see the need for huge turnover again in Jan.
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It would be nice to see the squad we assembled in the summer. We've not seen Salah or Traore, barely seen Vale either. And we're only just getting Sinik, Christie & Pelkas up to speed. We've been without Tetteh and Allahyar too for large portions.

Not seen anything of Fleming either yet
 
I wouldn't get hopes up for January...

We still have 4 new players that have barely featured for us, if at all; Salah, Traore, Vale, Simons. We're due players back like Fleming, Allahyar, Tetteh, Elder. Even Sinik and Pelkas aren't on double figures for appearances between them yet (or maybe just)...

The issue is, with everyone fit, we already have too many players to name in the squad. So who the hell is going to make way if we're planning on strengthening in January?

I can't see us binning any of the new signings after a few months in, so realistically we remove even more of the 'consistency' by selling on other players.

McLoughlin out for a 'good' CB in?
??? out for a 'good' defensive midfielder?
Smith out for a 'good' striker/forward?
??? out to bring a 'good' wing back in?

I'm struggling to see what we'll be able to do in January without some teeth pulling or us paying players to just train...

In a nutshell we need a manager that can get a tune out of what we've got right now, bearing in mind we have effective players due to become fit again hopefully soon enough.
 
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Brucebones said:
I really struggle to get rid of my **** players on Football Manager, even when I offer them to every club for next to nothing, I get the interest, but no firm bids.
Maybe real life FM is easier?
Let’s ask Acun & Sharky!
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What are you talking about? All we need to do is sell Scott and McLoughlin and we can sign Maguire back. :)
 
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Shark Sports said:
It would be nice to see the squad we assembled in the summer. We've not seen Salah or Traore, barely seen Vale either. And we're only just getting Sinik, Christie & Pelkas up to speed. We've been without Tetteh and Allahyar too for large portions.

Not seen anything of Fleming either yet
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Very true. I know some have written off Figs but I thought he looked a different player on Sunday now he's being told to head it and kick it not play out with it.

I'd say a ball winning, organising DM would be the main priority and perhaps a another CB as cover, but we could sign another 16 and still look like a team of individuals regardless because when you make that many changes that's what you are until things start to click which can take months.
 
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Mckechnie Orange said:
After this summer I'd probably argue that more wholesale changes could do more harm than good. 1 or 2 is a reasonable expectation. If they're in the right areas ie offering balance to that midfield then with returning players I don't see the need for huge turnover again in Jan.
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Honestly, looking at the specific problems we've got I don't think it's accurate to say that too many changes to the squad is the problem. Conceding from set pieces and crosses constantly is 90% of our issue. That was an issue last season too and it's the one area we didn't really strengthen. In hindsight, maybe a couple more defensive upgrades in addition to what we've got would've made the difference.
 
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PLT said:
Honestly, looking at the specific problems we've got I don't think it's accurate to say that too many changes to the squad is the problem. Conceding from set pieces and crosses constantly is 90% of our issue. That was an issue last season too and it's the one area we didn't really strengthen. In hindsight, maybe a couple more defensive upgrades in addition to what we've got would've made the difference.
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It all comes down to the uncertainty of players not sure who's doing what in certain situations - that's communication, organisation and understanding roles, responsibilities and what teammates need from eachother.

Of course I'd like to see a certain type of player being brought in to help the balance of the midfield - because I think that's also key, but you cant just sign a load of players and immediately expect them to gel into a team. It takes months. A bit like an orchestra takes months of rehearsal to play a decent tune.

I think Figs was brought in to dominate in the air but being asked to play out has dented his confidence - he's not that kind of defender. I haven't written him off just yet. He's proven he can cut it at this level if he's being asked to play in a way he's comfortable with.
 
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